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Fire related queries from non specialists / Re: Worried about a fridge
« Last post by AnthonyB on June 26, 2025, 07:40:13 PM »
They have a section where you can ask questions, I'd suggest you ask there, it does sound a bit odd, usually is the back where the heat is circulated https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/guidance/your-questions-answered/
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Fire related queries from non specialists / Re: Worried about a fridge
« Last post by tim.gjs on June 25, 2025, 08:23:11 PM »
Hi Anthony

Thank you very much for the link.

The document at the link gives a link to a Product Recalls search page. The RHTTLF1 is not on the list.

The document also gives the following list of safety measures:

    Always ensure that the area you are placing the refrigerator is free of paper or other flammable materials, and make sure there is enough room behind the refrigerator for air to circulate freely.

    Don?t connect a fridge to the electricity supply until all packaging has been removed.

    Never block the interior or exterior ventilation openings of the refrigerator.

    Make sure you don?t trap the mains cable beneath the fridge when putting it in position.

    Don?t use the fridge outdoors or anywhere it is likely to come into contact with the elements.

    Don?t place a refrigerator near cookers, radiators, or in direct sunlight, as this will result in it having to work harder to maintain the required internal temperature.

    Defrost your fridge at least once a year to ensure these appliances continue to work properly. Clean behind your fridge and freezer regularly to keep lint and dust from building up.  Do not use a heater to defrost the inside of the fridge.

My RHTTLF1 fridge has always been complaint with all of the above.

Is it normal for the sides of a refrigerator to be almost too hot to touch?

Do you think it is safe for me to switch my fridge back on again?

Thank you very much.

Kind regards
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Fire related queries from non specialists / Worried about a fridge
« Last post by tim.gjs on June 25, 2025, 01:07:25 PM »
Hi Everyone

I would be very grateful indeed for some help with something.

A few years ago, I purchased a Russell Hobbs RHTTLF1 table top fridge from Argos.

After about a couple of years, I noticed that the sides of the fridge were getting too hot to touch. I therefore suspected that it was possibly becoming a fire risk so I disposed of it.

I then searched the Internet for a replacement which satisfied the same criteria as the original fridge but could only find fridges which were identical to the RHTTLF1. It seems that several brands are purchasing the same fridge model from an anonymous manufacturer and relabelling it as their own.

I therefore purchased another RHTTLF1.

Again, after a while, the sides of the fridge became too hot to touch. However, I decided that as this fridge model was still being sold, and nobody seemed to be complaining about it, I would leave it switched on and continue to use it. It occurs to me that it may have been a mistake to dispose of the previous fridge.

Recently it has started making clicking noises which I am worried could actually be sparks. I don't know for sure though.

I am therefore no longer confident in its safety and have therefore now unplugged it and I am no longer using it. This means that I am currently without a functioning fridge which is rather inconvenient.

I have just now very briefly switched it back on to listen to the clicks again but they are gone. But I don't know if they will come back so I have switched it off again.

I would therefore be very grateful indeed for any thoughts about this situation. What do you recommend that I do?

Can I safely switch it back on again?

Thank you very much.

Kind regards
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You would think so! The only compliant ones I regularly see are at Costco and they are suitably signed.
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A delayed release on final exit doorset on commercial shop(,to reduce shoplifting)
looking at BS7273-4 2015 ,would this not need top be signed appropriately, to inform relevant persons that the door will not release for (whatever specified time )in seconds.
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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by JHoe5152 on April 02, 2025, 03:28:09 PM »
Thanks Anthony, that's really helpful.

Hope all is well with you.
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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by AnthonyB on March 26, 2025, 08:51:13 PM »
The gaps in the first set of pictures do look like they should be sealed using a product/system approved to EN 1366-4 for linear gap seals.

With respect to the second set if the hatches form part of a compartment line where, if breached, fire could spread beyond the compartment, then they should be metal otherwise they may be fine as they are. The fire strategy and drawings would indicate this.
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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by JHoe5152 on March 26, 2025, 06:00:57 PM »
Anthony

We had a fire stopping contractor visit the site to price things up for remediation and he brought along some sort of fire stopping expert to advise on the fire stopping requirements.

When looking in one of the cupboards inside one of the flats he made a comment on the plastic access hatch to access the hidden sewer vent pipe (SVP) and said they need to me metal. He made no comment on the plastic electrical distribution box in the same cupboard. The hatch is located in a fire rated cupboard with FD30S doors fitted.

Is he correct in stating the access hatch needs to be metal instead of plastic? I have attached photo so can see what I am referring to.

regards

Joey
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Q & A / Re: Compartmentation
« Last post by JHoe5152 on March 26, 2025, 04:52:27 PM »
Hi Anthony

Please find photo's attached as requested. I have spoken to a plasterer and he can't see why they haven't plastered to the top of the walls.
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