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Technical Advice / Re: Definitions
« Last post by lyledunn on April 15, 2023, 01:25:36 PM »
It might seem a bit of a daft question that I am posing but I am trying to understand a requirement in BS7671 which impacts on some crucial aspects of electrical installation work
So, would you consider a protected corridor in a hotel, for example, to be a protected escape route?
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Technical Advice / Re: Definitions
« Last post by Crusher on April 13, 2023, 09:50:53 AM »
From my perspective/understanding, 'means of escape' includes everything required to leave the premises from your location at the time of alarm/discovery, until you are at a safe place outside of the building i.e. at the bus stop.

This would include rooms, corridors, spaces, protected routes, fire exits, external stairs, evac lifts, ramps, hoists etc. It would also extend to locks on gates in enclosed yards!
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Technical Advice / Definitions
« Last post by lyledunn on April 12, 2023, 09:05:10 PM »
What is the difference between ?escape route? and ?means of escape?
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Fire Alarm Systems / Re: Testing of Fire Alarms in Communal Areas of Residential Propertes
« Last post by AnthonyB on April 10, 2023, 09:33:17 PM »
Yes, as even if the system had been installed as a Grade A system to the residential standard BS5839-6 this still recommends weekly testing.

A responsible person might argue that monthly is OK citing the fire safety provision checks requirement imposed on buildings over 18m/7 storeys under the Fire Safety (England) Regulations only being monthly but is up to them in conjunction with their competent person to determine if that would be a suitable system of maintenance under the Fire Safety Order.
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Fire Alarm Systems / Testing of Fire Alarms in Communal Areas of Residential Propertes
« Last post by Stobswellpond on April 10, 2023, 08:23:42 PM »
In many residential properties, there are existing fire alarms or new fire alarms have been installed as mitigation to replace the requirement for a waking watch. These alarms are to BS 5839-1 and this code of practice notes that weekly testes should be carried out on the alarm system. Should the weekly test apply to residential properties?
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Fire Safety / Re: long corridor
« Last post by Dinnertime Dave on April 04, 2023, 06:36:43 PM »
I?m not saying you have got this system, but something to be aware of

https://cms.esi.info/Media/documents/Colt_corridorsystem_ML.pdf
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Fire Safety / Re: long corridor
« Last post by mosh on April 03, 2023, 01:01:23 PM »
These are windows with actuators.

I don't believe there are sprinkler systems within the flats.
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Fire Safety / Re: long corridor
« Last post by AnthonyB on April 02, 2023, 09:52:34 PM »
Are they natural shafts or mechanical extract? Or just windows with actuators

I've seen extended corridors with single stair/exit where two would be required if using ADB for design where the fire engineers modelled a compliant solution by sprinkler protecting the flats and replacing the usual natural ventilation of the corridor with powered extract and make up air.

Worked well on the simulation, less so when the block had a fire and the fans failed!
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Fire Safety / long corridor
« Last post by mosh on April 02, 2023, 12:41:13 PM »
Hello,

I have come across a three-storey block of flats, with an extended ground-floor, containing 19 flats in a single corridor. There is only 1 means of escape and the distance from the most distant flat to the corridor fire door at the other end is approx 30m (plus approx another 10m from there to the exit).
There are 3 AOVs within the corridor - one near each end, and one in the middle.
There do not seem to be escape windows from the flats.
The building employs a Stay Put procedure.
Would the fact that there are so many AOVs mitigate the length of the corridor?

Thanks
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Q & A / occupancy -travel distance -door opening inwards
« Last post by maria anna on April 02, 2023, 08:07:10 AM »
Hi, All :)

Could anyone answer a few of my questions? please -I got myself completely confused. ???

I'm writing an assessment  for my fire NVQ 3
unfortunately English is not my first language, therefore I do question myself sometimes.....
the first question is about the door opening inwards -max occupancy of 60 peoples
if the room got more than one door and some of the doors open inwards and some outwards, does this rule of 60 max apply? or does this rule only apply when the room got only one door and they open inwards?
the second question is about travel distance
for example  for the care home total travel distance in one direction I 8 meters and 18 for more than one direction
The 18m travel distance typically comprises 8  within the bedroom and 10 m within the corridor is that correct?

Thank You for taking the time to read this

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