Author Topic: fire retardent curtains  (Read 11654 times)

Gary Howe

  • Guest
fire retardent curtains
« on: March 11, 2004, 01:58:20 PM »
:? Is there an industry standard labelling system in place for the recognising that (as part of a fire risk assessment of a place of public entertainment):

curtains/drapes are constructed of a durable flame retarded fabric or inherently flame retarded fabric?

upholstery coverings have the required minimum standards of ignition resistance?

I have noticed a guidance document entitled: furniture and furnshings (fire safety) regs 1988, amended 1989, I assume this is available from the stationary office.

Many Thanks

Gary.

Offline Peter Wilkinson

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
    • http://www.thefpa.co.uk
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2004, 10:02:21 PM »
You will find what you are looking for at

http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1988/Uksi_19881324_en_1.htm

with a handy guide at

http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/guide/furnitureguide.pdf

(page 11 of this guide answers your questions regarding labelling)
(all the stuff I said above is purely my own personal view and in no way represents any official view of my employer)

Offline Peter Wilkinson

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
    • http://www.thefpa.co.uk
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2004, 10:04:49 PM »
(all the stuff I said above is purely my own personal view and in no way represents any official view of my employer)

Offline wee brian

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2424
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2004, 02:06:10 PM »
I dont think the The Furniture and Furnishings Regs cover curtains and drapes in public ents buildings. Theres a BS spec which is normally used (If I get a chance I'll look it up) I dont think theres a standard label for it though. Test certs is all you get. They will refer to the number of washes before the fabric needs re-treating.

Offline Peter Wilkinson

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
    • http://www.thefpa.co.uk
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2004, 05:43:20 PM »
Yes, quite right Wee Brian.  I didn’t read Gary’s post correctly.  The furniture and furnishing regs covers domestic items.

I think the Home Office guide Guide to Fire Precautions in Existing Places of Entertainment and Like Premises would be useful, and the British Standards to which you refer include BS5837-2 Specification for fabrics for curtains and drapes- Flammability requirements and BS EN 13772/13773, the latter describes a classification scheme for curtains and drapes.

I hope this helps.
(all the stuff I said above is purely my own personal view and in no way represents any official view of my employer)

Gary Howe

  • Guest
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2004, 06:30:51 PM »
Peter/wee brian

thank you for the information so far, it has been very useful. If any body else has some useful tips on identification of non-flame retardent
curtains/drapes/furniture in public entertainment premises (from a risk point of view) then I would be most grateful.

I do not want to do what peter kaye did in phoenix nights to see if the bonsi tree was combustible!!

thanks again


Gary.

Offline wee brian

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2424
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2004, 07:47:28 PM »
I do remeber a story of a slightly over keen FPO who decided he would do a quick flame retardency test on a curtain. You can guess what happened (not a good career move)

The only way to check is to ask to see the relevant certificates.

Offline Ian Currie

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 31
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2004, 01:57:55 PM »
Peter
Would that be BS 5867 - 2, 1997?

Offline Ian Currie

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 31
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2004, 02:05:27 PM »
I meant of course BS 5867 - 2, 1980...... :oops:  

(Finger-induced errors must be contagious!)

Offline Peter Wilkinson

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 112
    • http://www.thefpa.co.uk
fire retardent curtains
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2004, 02:24:09 PM »
Well spotted Ian.  Your prize is in the post.
(all the stuff I said above is purely my own personal view and in no way represents any official view of my employer)