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Offline fireftrm

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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2007, 12:30:38 PM »
Kurnal - I made sure that the acronym RRA was only used after the full term was written, read my prior post!

Interesting that some have taken DRM and WRM to be part of the 'modernisation' just because they are acronyms? My point hrown perfectly back at jokar with support from others?

As to a PDR that isn't understood, or agreed, this seems to be a serious failing in the system employed by that FRS. It is meant to be a review of the individuals development, against their development plan PDP). So there should be nothing in it that is of a surprise, after all the development will have been ongoing with both employee and assessor party to it. The review will look at how it is progressing, what needs to be added/signed off to/from the PDP and a new review date set. What you are saying here, Pete, suggests a complete failure of understanding by both sides of what PDP and PDR is about.
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2007, 10:45:35 PM »
Here is my thoughts on all this IPDS, PDR, PDP, ABC, CNN,HRT, STD ( sorry- I digress!) and I will keep it simple so like- minded people understand.

Does IPDS make better, safer and more competent Fire fighters -  NO

Does the filling in of a record such as PDR pro mean that you can actually do what you said you did to a competent standard - NO

Do people going for promotion fully understand the PQA process - NO

More importantly, do people have faith in the PQA process for ADC's - NO

Do experienced fire personnel of all ranks who are in 15 years and over have confidence in the operational experience of some CM, WM's due to the lack of exposure to operational incidents - NO

Do I believe in the modernisation agenda - YES

Are we doing it right - NO

Offline Kaiser

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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2007, 03:58:11 PM »
Quote from: toidi
Here is my thoughts on all this IPDS, PDR, PDP, ABC, CNN,HRT, STD ( sorry- I digress!) and I will keep it simple so like- minded people understand.

Does IPDS make better, safer and more competent Fire fighters -  NO

Does the filling in of a record such as PDR pro mean that you can actually do what you said you did to a competent standard - NO

Do people going for promotion fully understand the PQA process - NO

More importantly, do people have faith in the PQA process for ADC's - NO

Do experienced fire personnel of all ranks who are in 15 years and over have confidence in the operational experience of some CM, WM's due to the lack of exposure to operational incidents - NO

Do I believe in the modernisation agenda - YES

Are we doing it right - NO
I think I can safely say that I agree with that !!!
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Offline Mike Buckley

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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2007, 04:35:37 PM »
Back to the old adage there are three ways of doing things the right way, the wrong way and the way the fire service does it.
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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2007, 07:15:04 PM »
In relation to my previous rant, I forgot to mention the fact that a well filled application form that hits all the PQA's and the person spec on paper means much more than an experienced person who everyone and their granny knows  can do the job standing on their head!

If we rely too much on what the candidate says they can do on paper - we will end up with paper managers with no substance and no credibility, except from their fellow paper managers who promoted them!!!