Author Topic: regulation 16b (Read 5876 times)

BG · « **on:** September 12, 2008, 09:03:05 AM »

Can anybody assist - this is aimed at FSO,s as part of your BR consultations are you being provided with copies of the 16b risk assesment as part of the consultation or recieving a copy of it with the completion certificate ?

jokar · « **Reply #1 on:** September 12, 2008, 09:10:03 AM »

and you should be getting a copy of the access statement about how they are complying with part M.

BG · « **Reply #2 on:** September 12, 2008, 10:28:26 AM »

By and large the access statement is not a problem - where I am concerned is for those projects in which their has been an engineered solution or where the project is dependant upon some form of managment controls then should not the 16b risk assesment be part of the building control - fire authority consultation process and not just a document that is passed from the developer to the client at the end ?

CivvyFSO · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2008, 12:19:03 PM »

It is only intended to assit the client so I don't expect we will see it. I certainly haven't seen a copy of one yet. I have suspicions that it will arrive somewhere in an envelope, and be filed on a shelf. Once it has arrived on the clients desk, is there any legal need for forward that information to the future occupiers?

It would be nice if we received it, and it would help us ensure that everything is being maintained as it should be during an audit. It would be an idea to start asking for it., and I think I might actually start doing that. I will let you know the outcome.

BG · « **Reply #4 on:** September 12, 2008, 01:04:37 PM »

Many thanks - my understanding is that regulation 16b came in to address the concerns over enginerered solutions and the RA was to be passed to the client ( who I suspect as you will wonder what on earth it is !) . I have asked several of the LA BC's we deal with and most if not all don't really have an idea of what to do with them or even bother to examine them . So maybe we can set the pace here and as part of our observations to BC's to request them when approprite and make them a formal part of the consultation process.

jokar · « **Reply #5 on:** September 12, 2008, 02:15:55 PM »

AS it is a preliminary risk assessment, and FRS enforce the RR(FS)O based on a fire risk assessment, wouldn't it be advantageous to ensure that in your consultation you hada copy to understand the palnning of the build and systems inside.

wee brian · « **Reply #6 on:** September 12, 2008, 02:16:29 PM »

The 16b info is required whn the project is complete - so the consultation has been and gone by then.

CivvyFSO · « **Reply #7 on:** September 12, 2008, 04:26:55 PM »

Quote from: jokar

AS it is a preliminary risk assessment, and FRS enforce the RR(FS)O based on a fire risk assessment, wouldn't it be advantageous to ensure that in your consultation you hada copy to understand the palnning of the build and systems inside.

We should understand all these details anyway at the planning/consultation stage. It is more for when it gets passed across to take its place in the future inspection regime. It would be an invaluable document to ensure that the FSOs know exactly what is in there, thus what needs to be maintained.

Since there is a huge risk that the 16b details will go to some architect/designer/developer and then no further, if the FRS got a copy they could ensure that it is available for future occupiers. It would have made sense to have the document sent straight to us, and occupiers could then request a copy it from us when they move in.

wee brian · « **Reply #8 on:** September 12, 2008, 04:42:59 PM »

Great Idea - will your Chief be happy to pay for this post office function?

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Author Topic: regulation 16b (Read 5876 times)