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Chris Houston

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Location of German Fire Station (Dietzenbach)
« on: September 20, 2008, 12:30:14 PM »
I'm trying to work out the exact location of a fire station in Germany.  I've done some googling and some online translations and I think I am correct in saying that it is located at:

63128 DIETZENBACH RODGAUSTRASSE 11

Can anyone confirm that this is the address of Dietzenbach fire station?  Any further details (is it full time or retained) how many appliances are based there and how long the station has been there would all be appreciated.

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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 09:38:57 PM »
Chris,

Autoroute Express tells me that Dietzenbach is a town about 10 miles SSE of Frankfurt. The road above is somewhere between a main road and a minor one near the town centre; a quite likely place for a fire station?
(Unfortunately Autoroute Express doesn't mark fire stations!)
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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 11:29:19 PM »
Try http://www.feuerwehr-dietzenbach.de/main_fv.html Dietzenbach Feuerwehr there is also a guestbook and email address below. You may have to speak german first?

Freiwillige Feuerwehr Dietzenbach
Rodgaustrasse 11
63128 Dietzenbach
Notruf: 06074 / 33322
Wache: 06074 / 33311
Fax: 06074 / 9172129
E-Mail: feuerwehr@dietzenbach.de
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 11:42:55 PM »
Mine Deutch ist nich so Gut!

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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 06:10:06 PM »
Dunno if this helps to see where the street is but -
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=newtownards&countryCode=GB#map=50.01305,8.78283|17|4&loc=DE:50.01305:8.78283:17|%20%20RODGAU-STRASSE%20DIETZENBACH%20|Rodgaustraße,%2063128,%20Dietzenbach,%20Offenbach

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 07:02:30 PM »
OK.  Problem solved.

Cheers for all the help.

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2008, 06:15:53 AM »
Chris?  "Freiwillige" means it's a volunteer brigade.

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2008, 10:12:13 AM »
Just be careful - they put mayonaise on your chips over there!

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2008, 10:18:00 AM »
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Chris?  "Freiwillige" means it's a volunteer brigade.
Yes, and many seem to be "volunteer" but my German friend phoned one of them (at 430pm on a Sunday) it turns out that they are sitting there waiting for a call 0630 to 1900 5 days a week with 1 person on site at all times.  So they may be "volunteer" but I think they spend a lot more time at the station than any UK volunteer fire fighters.

If anyone can explain more about the differences beween the "volunteer" and "occupational" brigades, please go for it.   The volunteer ones seem to outnumber the occupational ones.

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2008, 10:18:28 AM »
and the beers are those big metric pints.

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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2008, 03:05:51 PM »
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Quote from: VolFirie
Chris?  "Freiwillige" means it's a volunteer brigade.
Yes, and many seem to be "volunteer" but my German friend phoned one of them (at 430pm on a Sunday) it turns out that they are sitting there waiting for a call 0630 to 1900 5 days a week with 1 person on site at all times.  So they may be "volunteer" but I think they spend a lot more time at the station than any UK volunteer fire fighters.

If anyone can explain more about the differences beween the "volunteer" and "occupational" brigades, please go for it.   The volunteer ones seem to outnumber the occupational ones.
I went on an exchange trip to Pforzheim in Germany some years back.

From memory most of the 1,400,000 firefighters in Germany are volunteers.

The german Feuerwehr is not organised nationally as such, but is instead organised locally at village / town / city level as opposed to county or regional level.

"Berufsfeuerwehr" are the full time fire service

"Freiwillige Feuerwehr" Volunteeer Fire Brigade

"Werksfeuerwehr" - Industrial Fire Services

By law large cities must have a full time fire service, smaller cities / large towns have a mix of full time fire crews supported by volunteers, smaller towns / villages generally will have volunteers.

Pforzheim was a large town and had a mixture of full timers and volunteers if I remember correctly. The mayor was in charge of the fire service and had full control over the budget. The mayor also appointed the Fire Chief.

Alot of the volunteers spent a great deal of time on station purely for the social interaction with their full time colleagues. Often the firefighter had their families around too, very much like the UK Fire Service did at one time.

The volunteers were summoned by a siren, they were on the verge of moving onto pagers when we visited.
 
Don't quote me on this but whilst the volunteers did not get paid per call out (unlike a retained firefighter) they did get concessions / reductions on the ammount of tax they paid

Furthermore, again from memory but Im sure that in some areas where the recruitment of volunteers was difficult a Mayor could require citizens to become volunteers - bit like a sort of conscription if you like.

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2008, 08:31:57 PM »
If you look closely you may see a firefighter waving to you? http://www.multimap.com/maps/?qs=dietzenbach&countryCode=DE#map=50.01322,8.78303|18|32&loc=DE:50.00941:8.78041:14|dietzenbach|Dietzenbach,%20Offenbach
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 08:18:53 PM »
Quote from: Midland Retty
Quote from: Chris Houston
Quote from: VolFirie
Chris?  "Freiwillige" means it's a volunteer brigade.
Yes, and many seem to be "volunteer" but my German friend phoned one of them (at 430pm on a Sunday) it turns out that they are sitting there waiting for a call 0630 to 1900 5 days a week with 1 person on site at all times.  So they may be "volunteer" but I think they spend a lot more time at the station than any UK volunteer fire fighters.

If anyone can explain more about the differences beween the "volunteer" and "occupational" brigades, please go for it.   The volunteer ones seem to outnumber the occupational ones.
I went on an exchange trip to Pforzheim in Germany some years back.

From memory most of the 1,400,000 firefighters in Germany are volunteers.

The german Feuerwehr is not organised nationally as such, but is instead organised locally at village / town / city level as opposed to county or regional level.

"Berufsfeuerwehr" are the full time fire service

"Freiwillige Feuerwehr" Volunteeer Fire Brigade

"Werksfeuerwehr" - Industrial Fire Services

By law large cities must have a full time fire service, smaller cities / large towns have a mix of full time fire crews supported by volunteers, smaller towns / villages generally will have volunteers.

Pforzheim was a large town and had a mixture of full timers and volunteers if I remember correctly. The mayor was in charge of the fire service and had full control over the budget. The mayor also appointed the Fire Chief.

Alot of the volunteers spent a great deal of time on station purely for the social interaction with their full time colleagues. Often the firefighter had their families around too, very much like the UK Fire Service did at one time.

The volunteers were summoned by a siren, they were on the verge of moving onto pagers when we visited.
 
Don't quote me on this but whilst the volunteers did not get paid per call out (unlike a retained firefighter) they did get concessions / reductions on the ammount of tax they paid

Furthermore, again from memory but Im sure that in some areas where the recruitment of volunteers was difficult a Mayor could require citizens to become volunteers - bit like a sort of conscription if you like.
I served in Germany as a volunteer firefighter for 5 years after I left the army and we didn't get paid a bean or receive any tax concessions.  Most of the younger lads joined to avoid doing military national service and many of the older lads stayed on after their compulsary time for alternative service because of the outstanding social life that goes with being a volunteer firefighter in Germany.  I left the German fire service in 1996 and still go over to my old station every year without fail for their Christmas party, I get invited because I am an honourary firefighter within their brigade.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 07:41:15 AM »
Is it posible / likely that some of the Freiwillige Feuerwehr have 'full time' support in some fire stations? Like in the UK where full time firefighters are assigned to fire stations conditioned to the RDS, either to provide Community Safety Support or additional crew members as 'Nucleus Manning'?
In Holland (which I know is not Germany) I visited a 'Volunteer station' which had full time Officers and driver  / mechanics. The Volunteers responded like our retained crews and they went out as mixed crews.

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2008, 10:06:48 PM »
This may be possible, it depends on the number of calls, size of the station area, town or city etc. Where I served in Germany, we used to have hose management for the whole of the district.  There was a full time man employed to do this job who was also on the run as a volunteer.  I also know of caretaker/firefighters who look after the running of the station buildings in return for an appartment at the fire station.
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