Author Topic: Ugrading of Fire doors, listed building  (Read 27753 times)

Offline colin todd

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Re: Ugrading of Fire doors, listed building
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2008, 02:04:16 AM »
Even determinations are challengable but they may by some miracle have come to the right decision for badly expressed reasons. But then if they could express themsleves properly why would they work for the CLG when there are lots of proper jobs out there.
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Offline Fishy

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Re: Ugrading of Fire doors, listed building
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2008, 08:09:10 AM »
Straightforward application of what usually results in these cases - ACOPs / National Standards etc provide the 'benchmark' level of acceptable safety and the girls & boys in the funny wigs expect the punters to explain how they've taken this into account.  No absolute requirement to follow the standards, of course, but the key is that we should be prepared to show how an equivalent level of safety has been achieved, by other means.  Not "code hugging" but "code comparing".


Please see the recent report of CLG on an Article 36 determination at:
 http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/fire/heritagehotel
Very relevant to discussion topic

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Re: Ugrading of Fire doors, listed building
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2008, 01:15:41 PM »
I suggest you look at Sealmaster, of Cambridgshire, they are approved by English Heritage and have products specifically designed for the upgrading of fire doors, in particular the door panels within listed buildings.
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