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Offline CivvyFSO

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #105 on: January 12, 2010, 09:10:02 PM »
I think you missed the 'prior' to the blaze' part.

I do like that comment: 'mistakenly relied on'

Kinda shows that you can't train people up in risk assessments in a few days.
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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #106 on: January 12, 2010, 10:11:29 PM »
No, I did not.  Perhaps I needed to follow Colin's lead and be educated in Scotland in order to get the tenses correct.  What I think I meant was that having their staff trained on 1 day fire risk and fire awareness courses was not enough training for their staff to become competent fire risk assessors if that was the thought process they were going through at the time.  The LFB website quite clearly states the content of these courses and only the naive would believe that you could conduct an FRA from this small amount of training.

Perhaps a bit of mudslinging is going on as a defence mechanism.

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #107 on: January 13, 2010, 09:56:41 PM »
theres a lot of it about.................

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #108 on: March 01, 2010, 08:59:12 AM »

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #109 on: March 01, 2010, 09:19:21 AM »
What duration of course does the panel believe gives someone the expertise to carry out a suitable and sufficient assessment?
I have been called upon to re assess a children's residential home. The current assessment was undertaken by someone who attended a 2.5 day course.
There was no mention of any structural fire safety measures and it listed an assortment of, what he considered, relevant legislation to bulk out the assessment. Some may consider this good practice but the legislation referred to was all English and the assessment was carried out in Northern Ireland.
Clearly, a very informative and educational course.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #110 on: March 01, 2010, 04:16:43 PM »
How long is a piece of string?

Until someone grasps the nettle in CLG and actually decides on some kind of framework, similar perhaps to NEBOSH / IOSH system then only a court can decide what is or what is not acceptable.

Naturally you would hope that anything involving sleeping risks and hazardous processes would be assessed by someone who has done more than a 2.5 day course.

Its the age old thing that someone risk assessing a corner shop will only need basic knowledge, someone assessing a nuclear power station requires superior knowledge, and a lot of experience .

Also being competent is to know when you would be incompetent to take on something beyond your capabilities.

But as ever NT just like the question I asked about the competency of fire alarm engineers - it's teh generic "how long is a piece of string" answer form me , I'm afraid.