Fire Wardens

[stevew]

I have noticed that there are several companies advertising fire warden courses by selling them as a requirement under the RRO.
This is clearly incorrect and should only be considered after having taken into account the need for such individuals within the premises
fire strategy.

The argument used by the companies is that the RRO requires the responsible person to employ competent persons to assist, which is correct however it does NOT require fire wardens in ALL premises.

Clearly companies should do their homework on the interpretation of the RRO before they are let loose on the public.
Interestingly at least two of the companies have FW courses approved by the IFE.  Maybe the IFE would like to advise  those companies in question of their misunderstanding, if that is what it is.

Steve     

[AnthonyB]

Another problem I see is that people who are 'persons with responsibilities' in buildings are sent on Fire Warden training courses when they actually need a short course far more oriented on Fire Safety Management....

It seems that where a training need is identified the answer is just send them on an FW course!

[tmprojects]

Interestingly at least two of the companies have FW courses approved by the IFE.  Maybe the IFE would like to advise  those companies in question of their misunderstanding, if that is what it is.

Steve     

have you thought of raising it with the IFE? They may of approved the course but i'm sure they didn't approve how it would be marketed.

Call me optomistic but if they knew the course was being mis-sold, they may take it up with the company. after all it is there reputation also.

Without getting on my soapbox. And i know i have said the same on this forum many times before. But!!

we complain about Fire extinguisher companies over selling, unscrupulous Fire Risk Assessors, and mis-sold products. We all complain, but does anyone do anything? really?

I say inform the IFE, unless we hold these companies to task It will continue. Or tell me who they are. I'll gladly do it.

[stevew]

Anthony
I have also experienced clients using the fire warden course when clearly fire management would be more appropriate.
To tell a client that they the money would be better spent on a management course is normally received with a shrug of the shoulders.
No mention however of taking up the suggestion of the management course.   

tmprojects
The IFE will be made aware of the companies.

Steve

[cbfire999]

I agree, the Fire Warden course should not be sold as a one course fits all, these Fire Training courses should be bespoke.  Problem is, companies make contact and assume that it is Fire Warden Training that they require as the person making the call has normally just been given the job to 'just go and book a course' by management!!

[tmprojects]

tmprojects
The IFE will be made aware of the companies.

Steve

Steve

Excellent. Someone with a bit of steel. I sincerely hope they act.

I would be very grateful to hear how you get on.

tm

[Oliver Austin]

Becoming a Fire Warden requires a lot of training and one has to go through strict regimen and pass written physical examinations that would test the mental and physical capability of the candidate and determine whether he is fit for the job or not.
The rules and regulations may vary from country to country, but the basic course structure is more or less the same. So if you are thinking about becoming a Fire Warden, be prepared to go through rigorous training schedules.

[nearlythere]

Is this an ad?

[lingmoor]

Becoming a Fire Warden requires a lot of training and one has to go through strict regimen and pass written physical examinations that would test the mental and physical capability of the candidate and determine whether he is fit for the job or not.
The rules and regulations may vary from country to country, but the basic course structure is more or less the same. So if you are thinking about becoming a Fire Warden, be prepared to go through rigorous training schedules.

is this for a fire warden or the SAS?

[nearlythere]

Becoming a Fire Warden requires a lot of training and one has to go through strict regimen and pass written physical examinations that would test the mental and physical capability of the candidate and determine whether he is fit for the job or not.
The rules and regulations may vary from country to country, but the basic course structure is more or less the same. So if you are thinking about becoming a Fire Warden, be prepared to go through rigorous training schedules.

is this for a fire warden or the SAS?

US Special Forces but don't say cos I might have to kill you now that you know.

[cbfire999]

The strange reply is exactly the same reply to another Fire Warden question on another forum from the same guy!  Most bizarre outlook!