Brigade attendance to automatic signalled systems

[colin todd]

CFOA acknowledge that they cant get FRS to buy into the policy so they are doing a new one.

[Mike Buckley]

So the CFOA cannot get its own members to agree to work its own policies! This is a recipe for chaos if ever I saw one.

[Midland Retty]

As an aside do any of you feel that these policies will give rise to the increase in industrial fire brigades?

[Mike Buckley]

Yes I can see it giving an opportunity for some security firms to provide fire teams or small industrial fire brigades for the premises they cover.

This will of course have nothing to do with these firms getting the kudos for being competent to provide fire brigades to the Fire Authorities.

[colin todd]

Michae: Yes, that is the position. CFOA are impotent to do anything much of value in terms of fire safety policy sadly, notwithstanding the perceived insights and all the errors it contains.

[David Rooney]

So I take it as no one is prepared to trust the equipment there is no method acceptable to anyone of "confirming" an alarm other than ringing the emergency services when flames are licking the callers behind ?

[colin todd]

Coincidence operation is one method but may not be great as it could depend on significant fire spread unless you double up on detectors.

[David Rooney]

As said Colin we do have certain heritage buildings where early attendance is essential but they are not manned 24 hour.

Coincidence detection is one route and is better than nothing, but we still haven't had a response from anyone saying they would accept this method and turn out.....

[colin todd]

I thought merseyside were going to accept that, but they called it the wrong name.