Author Topic: Working in domestic premises.  (Read 4783 times)

Offline Tom Sutton

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Working in domestic premises.
« on: April 28, 2014, 09:40:17 AM »
Got this enquiry the other day and have been waiting for the site to sort its self out. Any observations?

I have a domestic cleaning business. I am writing my H&S policy and am unsure on the fire safety for staff due to working in homes? Please could you advise?

It is a workplace for the cleaner but a domestic premises which is not subject to the RR(FS)O so would it be goodwill advice?

All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

Offline nearlythere

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Re: Working in domestic premises.
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 11:42:07 AM »
Got this enquiry the other day and have been waiting for the site to sort its self out. Any observations?

I have a domestic cleaning business. I am writing my H&S policy and am unsure on the fire safety for staff due to working in homes? Please could you advise?

It is a workplace for the cleaner but a domestic premises which is not subject to the RR(FS)O so would it be goodwill advice?


It wouldn't be goodwill advice for the staff. They come under H&S in the workplace which includes appropriate fire safety measures relevant to the situation.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2014, 12:45:07 PM by nearlythere »
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Offline Tom Sutton

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Re: Working in domestic premises.
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 07:22:39 PM »
The employer does not have control so is not the RP so how does he/she get things done.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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Re: Working in domestic premises.
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2014, 08:14:14 PM »
The employer does not have control so is not the RP so how does he/she get things done.
But the employer has control of the employee. I'm not saying that anything of a physical nature has to or could be done to the residence but the level of fire safety measures may be no more than fire safety awareness training.

The cleaning business has no control over what people do in their own homes but perhaps the employee may need to be aware of possible fire risks that might be encountered whilst on a premises and what to do if they are not happy with a situation.

Lets say that Mrs Mop goes to a house to do some cleaning and the residence owner's son, Dwayne, has got his motorcycle in the hall with the fuel tank removed and a whiff of petrol everywhere. There is of course the potential for a dangerous situation especially if Mrs Mopp has to do some cleaning upstairs. You would not want employees exposed to something like that in any other situation so why a dwelling. Mrs Mopp can't tell Dwaye to remove the motorcycle and the petrol fumes but she can refuse to be in the premises. Extreme example but I'm sure you get my drift.

The fire safety measure might also be that before Mrs Mopp goes up the stairs she checks the fire alarm to make sure it is working?

It does not mean a fire risk assessment but just some general fire safety awareness advice and guidance appropriate for a dwelling.
The same would apply to general H&S issues.

Just to clarify by edit I'm not saying that testing the domestic fire alarm is a contol measure for a hall full of petrol vapour.  Two separate comments.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2014, 09:06:00 PM by nearlythere »
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