Author Topic: BS 7671 update - requirement for fire-resistant fastenings and fixings  (Read 15078 times)

Offline nearlythere

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Can anyone give an instance or two where people evacuating have had problems because of failing cable supports? 



Yeh. 2005 in a block of flats in Stevenage.
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Did people have trouble evacuating, Almost.
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Offline Fishy

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Yes, you should consider it (it's a fire protection measure contained in national guidance, after all) ... but I'd personally find it hard to believe that you'd conclude upgrading was required in many situations. 

The guidance is poorly conceived, in my opinion... what, in any case, constitutes an "escape route" (any habitable space which people might transit during their escape in case of fire, perhaps) and why would you expect there to be a risk to fire-fighters only in those locations, when their duties might take them more or less anywhere in a building?  If they meant protected escape routes - one would hope that you're not planning to get a build up of hot gases at ceiling level in those?  I reckon many Sparks will end up using metal clips everywhere, because they won't want to get caught out.

An exception might be if you're relying upon smoke control - e.g. shopping malls, atria - and you have cables running across the soffits - could be a legitimate recommendation in such circumstances, I'd suggest?

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Watch this space to see how many enforcement notices we get with the "requirement" to upgrade cables in voids etc??
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You are becoming bitter, twisted and cynical, Wullie.  You need a holiday in Scotland.
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I should make the trip really seeing as I am part Scottish! Does that mean you think even more highly of me now??

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Which part is Scottish and from where.  these factors have to be taken into account.
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Which part is Scottish and from where.  these factors have to be taken into account

Please report Clan and which side they fought on at the Battle of Culloden.
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Which part is Scottish and from where.  these factors have to be taken into account.

My dad and grandparents were born in Stranraer.

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D&G is almost England, Willie. They go shopping in Carlisle.
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D&G is almost England, Willie. They go shopping in Carlisle.


Ooo so close but no cigar!  :-[

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Some natives of Edinburgh have regularly been seen doing their shopping in Guildford.

Light up the King Edward William as citizens of Britain we are all equal even though some are more equal then others.

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Apart from buying a Staus Quo album in Guildford last Saturday, Big Al, I havent been shopping in Guildford since Xmas.

And you say citizens of Britain, so does that mean Almost over in NI is not equal to the rest of us?
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