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Offline Benzerari

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Yet another Morley problem
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2008, 12:50:53 PM »
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i have lost all faith in Morley and will never use them again for new projects
Come on Grame! because of just a faulty card? they still reliable mate! If you have just purchased a brand new panel from Morley, you still have got warranty of replacement do you? Faulty card can happen to any make mate!

Why not seeing the problem the other way round, I used to see engineers fitting loop cards while the system is powered up, when they fail to operate they wash hand straight away claiming it is a faulty card…

I think it is not that easy to blame some trade marks because of some minor deficiencies
I'd have to agree with Grahame on this one - given the choice I wouldn't touch them with a 12 foot barge pole now as there are way too many software issues of late and panel problems.
They USED to be a very reliable option and were our preferred panel for open protocol but not anymore.
For tech support you'd be better ringing ADVANCED and talking to one of the ex-Morley guys there (only joking but about as much use as phoning MORLEY)!
The software versions issue of Morley is true, if your colleague has already used some version in some stage, then you get to deal with the same system with a latter version, as a result your colleague could no longer get access to the system, with his version, this happened to us on several occasions..., and the things went on completely diverted to blame the lack of communications between colleagues ... while the real problem wasn't that.

Other issues of old Morley systems they may cause earth fault generated internally in the PCB and not from the external wiring. We had such problems some times.

The networking issue is even too tedious…, networking old and new Morley systems may not work properly all Morley panels have to be upgraded to the same chip version and so on…

With all of that we still have many sites with Morley systems and every thing goes perfectely, while I still agree there is no 100% perfect make.

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2008, 06:25:22 PM »
I used to be quite a morley fan, easily programmed and installed.

But my recent experience has put me well off, 4 sites and counting. Strangely all panels were installed before 2000.

I'm glad we no longer use morley, onto Ampac.

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2008, 09:44:30 PM »
Fire panels are no different to cars , all time bombs waiting to go wrong.
Its time to make a counter attack !

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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2008, 09:51:02 PM »
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Fire panels are no different to cars , all time bombs waiting to go wrong.
Think I'd prefer my car not to start than the fire alarm system not operating correctly.

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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2008, 05:41:56 PM »
Buz ,
Depends where you are off to
Its time to make a counter attack !

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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2008, 07:03:35 PM »
I always thought the old morley with the big led display was the best .
Its time to make a counter attack !

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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2008, 08:44:39 PM »
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Buz ,
Depends where you are off to
True - missus offering lift to pub at 10 o'clock and it's raining is a good example.

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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2008, 08:45:42 PM »
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I always thought the old morley with the big led display was the best .
That'll be when the guys now at ADVANCED were at Morley!

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2008, 05:50:14 PM »
Yet again Morley issue, double address in some system installed in 2004, when sorting out one double address another comes up with different address, But what causing them? no idea

Have looked around only ladies in offices they would not bother about removing and refitting the heads half way like usually smokers do, what could be the problem then? NO single idea, when such problems happened around 5pm, there is no much that can be done. :(

I think I am going to join the club who says Morley is over,

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2008, 05:54:14 PM »
Try and see if the panel is set for a calibration time , if it is turn if off and see if that clears your problem.
Its time to make a counter attack !

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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2008, 06:01:31 PM »
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Try and see if the panel is set for a calibration time , if it is turn if off and see if that clears your problem.
How that can happen on its own, with no one touch the system? I think calibration can be done manually by some one... I haven't got a clue mate.

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2008, 06:20:15 PM »
Benz ,
See if it has be set previously , (not referring to the staff doing this) , and it might be worth having a loop card , I would either stick a test set on or if you are Apollo a cheap single loop panel in a flight case is what I tend to use on site to suss the loop out, that way you can rule the actual loop out.
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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2008, 09:31:31 PM »
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Benz ,

See if it has be set previously , (not referring to the staff doing this) , and it might be worth having a loop card , I would either stick a test set on or if you are Apollo a cheap single loop panel in a flight case is what I tend to use on site to suss the loop out, that way you can rule the actual loop out.
Galeon; The system was sitting lovely with no problems at all and suddenly double addresses came out, each time I clear one and reset the system I see the system sitting healthy, then half hour latter on, another double address comes up with a different address, this is not a brand new install it was perfectly for four years...

I think swapping loops may sort it out, at least to see if the problem still persist in the same loop or it jumps to the swapped one...

Thanks for the idea of the loop card. I wouldn't think about around 5pm ... particularly when I had another urgent call out to some customer of 1st priority.