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Offline stevew

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Fire detection-multi-storey blocks of flats
« on: March 13, 2007, 02:56:35 PM »
I would welcome any observations on the following matter that has been bugging me for some time.

Guidance indicates that if the premises is constructed to current building regs standards then afd will not be required in the common parts.  The only system would be a self-contained BS5839 Part 6 system within each unit.

My concern is the fire in an unoccupied unit.  This would no doubt activate the internal alarm in the unit however after that there is no means of warning persons beyond the unoccupied unit.

Would it not be reasonable to extend the BS 5839 Part 1 system to include at least a heat detector in the entrance lobby to each unit, or are there any other suggestions?

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Fire detection-multi-storey blocks of flats
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2007, 06:28:00 PM »
Not only is AFD not required in the common parts- the guidance does not require the provision of any fire alarm in the common parts. So there is nothng to connect the heat detector to.
The degree of compartmentation, limited travel distances, ventilation to staircases and corridors, fire resisting self closing doors to each flat,  are considered sufficient safeguards even if a serious fire occurs in an unoccupied unit. Sometimes it does go pearshaped though and there are a number of news stories on google where the fire brigades have had to evacuate large parts of a purpose built block of flats.

But to balance that there are many more examples of buildings converted into flats in which the compartmentation was not in place, that have been much more serious and a risk to both occupants and firefighters, alarms or not. See the recent fire near the Albert Hall in london as an example.

Unlike most situations nowadays, the safety design and evacuation strategy of flats still relies on the brigade attending and intervening- even to the extent of opening the vents in the staircase where these are manual.
The responsible persons in all other purpose groups are not allowed to take intervention by the brigade into account within their emergency plans.