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Davo

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Fire Doors for a theatre
« on: September 24, 2008, 03:49:20 PM »
Our theatre has just been refurbished and among my concerns are the fire doors.

We have a 250 seat theatre.

One new pair of fire doors down by the stage, and two new pairs (one and a half really) at the top where there are two entrances.
The halves at the top have been cut from a standard blank and a 5mm or so softwood lip ?glued and panel pinned. Some of the heads have broken off. The door surrounds (architraves) have also been panel pinned.
At least one of the doors has been routed out on site and the joiner obviously slipped as he has gouged out in one place almost twice as much as needed.

I have to say these two doors are inner doors and the outer doors are two years old and in much better condition, having been installed by our previous contractor


Ther is other stuff such as filling in above the top frame etc but I won't bore you with this.

Question is, do I ignore as they are inner doors 4m from the outers or do I insist on replacement?

davo

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 04:39:50 PM »
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Our theatre has just been refurbished and among my concerns are the fire doors.

We have a 250 seat theatre.

One new pair of fire doors down by the stage, and two new pairs (one and a half really) at the top where there are two entrances.
The halves at the top have been cut from a standard blank and a 5mm or so softwood lip ?glued and panel pinned. Some of the heads have broken off. The door surrounds (architraves) have also been panel pinned.
At least one of the doors has been routed out on site and the joiner obviously slipped as he has gouged out in one place almost twice as much as needed.

I have to say these two doors are inner doors and the outer doors are two years old and in much better condition, having been installed by our previous contractor


Ther is other stuff such as filling in above the top frame etc but I won't bore you with this.

Question is, do I ignore as they are inner doors 4m from the outers or do I insist on replacement?

davo
Lots of info needed here Davo.
Do you mean fire doors or escape doors or both?
Where do the doors at the top come from? A protected route, from open air or other.
Are the two sets of doors at the top meant to be fire resisting doors?
Do you have or can you get a plan drawing showing the theatre and the rest of the building?
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 04:50:27 PM »
If these are fire doors then I would suggest that the installer may not have been competent and that they may not fulfil the BS.

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 05:07:56 PM »
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nearlythere

1. Fire doors certainly for the outer doors, the inners would be fire rated if installed correctly
2. Both doors open out into a large lobby and thence to outside on the left, protected corridor on the right and then out

The passages could be used by FFs to set/up assess


davo
It is possible that none of the doors need be fire doors. Depends very much on the layout and what the remainder of the premises accessed by the large foyer is used for. Is the foyer an only means of escape from other parts of the premises?
Difficult without a plan. Can you access plans?

Not sure what "The passages could be used by FFs to set/up assess" means.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 05:17:04 PM »
Is this a multi storey building Davo? Are there any different purpose groups using the building?

If you would like me to take a look at it would be pleased to do so gratis in view of the help you have given me in the past.