Determination on hotel bedroom doors in a heritage hotel

[The Colonel]

Another interesting determination.

http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/fire/heritagehotel

[Mushy]

If an office has two way travel then it doesn't require fire doors...so therefore could be open at all times and smoke could fill the corridor

In a hotel the reasoning behind the doors being Fire Doors with S/C's is probably that there will be a time delay due to people waking up...wondering what that noisy alarm is and eventually (hopefully) responding

The thing is...I doubt very much if a hotel room that is on fire will have the door open if the occupants are asleep...so in effect the response time is irrelevant to an office that has it's doors already open

The difference I suppose is if someone escaping from a fire leaves the door open before the others have escaped

ok I'll shut up

[kurnal]

Thats exactly what happened Mushy. Remember in the early days of the FP Act the old original red guide for hotels did not require self closers on hotel bedroom doors except in dead end corridors. Then as I recall someone died when a fire occurred in a staff bedroom and the occupant panicked and ran leaving the door open. This lead do a change in the guidance to require SCs on all bedroom doors.

[FSO]

Well of course Kurnal there is nothing we could do about it now as the staff bedroom would be domestic premises.

Sorry, I have made too much a dent in the wine cellar tonight and I am being flippant!

Night all

[Mr. P]

Q from Mushy [If an office has two way travel then it doesn't require fire doors...so therefore could be open at all times and smoke could fill the corridor]

Agreed to second part of above obviously, but what about protection of the escape route? If a small build then above is possibly acceptable, but, if large or intricate layout, I would want to seen the exit protected and therefore expect fire doors.