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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2009, 02:56:49 PM »
Whats actually the concern then?

A fire starting in the common areas or a fire spreading from an adjacent room?

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2009, 08:57:19 PM »
A fire in the escape route.  Adjacent rooms have doors that can be shut.

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2009, 01:18:36 AM »
The simple fact here is that we are not talking about an occupancy who can get up and walk out of the place unaided the second they hear an alarm. Now unless you can remove all sources of ignition (difficult while you have to supply normal lighting & emergency lighting & also allow people/residents in the building) then any sizeable fire loading in an escape corridor is a potential fire in an escape corridor, and in the circumstances IMO it is an intolerable risk.

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2009, 10:17:14 AM »
Thankyou, Civvy.

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2009, 01:19:48 PM »
A fire in the escape route.  Adjacent rooms have doors that can be shut.

Where is the fire coming from then? A light fitting? How about low energy lighting.

Incidently, have you ever tried setting fire to a well maintained peice of furniture that conforms to 7176? Trust me it does not go.

I really cannot see an issue in a well managed premises especially if fire suppression is fitted. In actual fact, I seem to remember an instructor from the FPA who shared the same sentiments when I completed the complex risk assessment course a while ago.

I personally cannot see why closers are removed from doors when the premises are sprinklered, but I accept what ADB says.

I feel that we cannot just lay huge generic statements over one type of premises. The whole point of the legislation is that the risk creator will manage their own risk.

I accept that in some circumstances (proberly most) that furniture within common areas are a no no, but lets try and be subjective about the whole thing.  :)

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2009, 08:33:17 PM »

I seem to remember an instructor from the FPA who shared the same sentiments when I completed the complex risk assessment course a while ago.


Say no more.



I accept that in some circumstances (proberly most) that furniture within common areas are a no no, but lets try and be subjective about the whole thing.


Fair enough.


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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2009, 09:35:43 PM »

I seem to remember an instructor from the FPA who shared the same sentiments when I completed the complex risk assessment course a while ago.


Say no more.



Actually, on reflection, I agree.  ;)

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2009, 12:52:10 AM »
Incidently, have you ever tried setting fire to a well maintained peice of furniture that conforms to 7176? Trust me it does not go.

It is clearly people like you who we are trying to protect the residents from!

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Re: Means of Escape in Sheltered Housing
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2009, 09:26:29 AM »
Incidently, have you ever tried setting fire to a well maintained peice of furniture that conforms to 7176? Trust me it does not go.

It is clearly people like you who we are trying to protect the residents from!

ROTFLMAO  :D :D :D