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Graeme

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2005, 02:10:52 PM »
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The school have tried alarmed covers, CCTV and considered moving them. I still think the school discipline issue needs to be improved.
What is also surprising is that the fire alarm company do not seem to think this would be a variation?.

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The covers cause more than a single action to break the glass,so they are without doubt a variation and should have been listed as one when the design was originally submitted or when they were later installed.

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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2005, 07:45:33 AM »
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Some years ago, a local authority had a school where this had been a constant problem and had agreed with the fire authority to have a system whereby an initial activation of a call-point gave only a stand-by (intermittent) signal for a limited time period that could be cancelled by the caretaking staff upon checking the supposed fire area or would go into full-evacuation (continuous mode) if this cancellation did not occur before the end of the defined time period. Is this still acceptable today?


Is this procedure (using MCPs) in use anywhere ?

I understood that a time delay system such as this could only be operated by smoke/heat detectors and any actuation from a manual call point would over-ride such systems and place the AFD into full alarm.

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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2005, 02:27:47 PM »
Messy, Your good friends LUL perhaps?
Colin Todd, C S Todd & Associates

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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2005, 05:42:32 PM »
Duh!. (Right under my nose!)

Thanks Colin

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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2005, 09:28:20 PM »
Always a pleasure to help the large met boys , messy. Hope you are well and staying out of burning buildings.

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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2005, 11:13:40 PM »
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Quote from: jayjay
The school have tried alarmed covers, CCTV and considered moving them. I still think the school discipline issue needs to be improved.
What is also surprising is that the fire alarm company do not seem to think this would be a variation?.

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The covers cause more than a single action to break the glass,so they are without doubt a variation and should have been listed as one when the design was originally submitted or when they were later installed.
If in areas of noticable malicious operation then,provided they are acceptable to the local authority,they are recorded as a variation.I have previously known of two different station officers where one ok'd them and the other didn't.If you have a particular one that is being hit all the time and you have tried everything to overcome this then it can be removed and marked down as a variation,this would be to achieve a reduction in false alarms.