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Midland Retty

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Re: Fire alarm monitoring - blocks of flats
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 03:51:56 PM »
Anthony B has hit the nail on the head when it comes to instrusive surveys, particularly in older buildings  where critical "As Built" information and documentation is otherwise unavailable, or un-retrievable.

Intrusive surveys aren't cheap and they can cause a great deal of disruption. But there are many benefits of having a survey done.

You can often kill two or three birds with one stone by having a survey undertaken, and once completed you should not, if managed properly, have to have another survey done in future.

I often come across organisations who have spent thousands of pounds on things like asbestos and electrical surveys for all their sites, only to find for a few extra quid they could have had full structural surveys undertaken at the same time, that would inturn have picked up several other issues, which they later had to pay someone else to undertake further intrusive surveys for.

Remember that the information you get back from intrusive surveys can benefit several people in your organisation. From your risk assessor, to your estates manager, maintenance engineers, etc  

Whilst doing an intrusive survey, looking at structural elements, someone else at the same time, could be looking at the electrics or mechanical services in those inaccessible areas.
 
Then, once the survey is complete you will have a line in the sand from which to base future assessments and plans from. You will know what is in that building, how it's been constructed , and can then manage, monitor and document what goes in thereafter, keeping an up-to-date picture of what is going on at that property.

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Re: Fire alarm monitoring - blocks of flats
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 04:50:25 PM »
yes I would agree with Anthony B too and am happy to do a cost exercise based on all of these points.

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If you have a lot of premises it can stack up in cost, but in the long run can pay for itself in reduction in testing and maintenance costs. Not every site will need the intrusive survey.

What kind of company should be able to provide this service for me?

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Re: Fire alarm monitoring - blocks of flats
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 06:54:22 PM »
A diligent one with an eye for detail and an understanding of building construction and the history and development of blocks of flats. You may find these skills amongst a range of different disciplines- fire safety risk assessors (but not the tick box brigade) , the passives industry, building surveyors. As Anthony says it would be best value to incorporate a range of inspections whilst the building is disrupted. From a fire perspective you could do a lot worse than speak to the ASFP.

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Re: Fire alarm monitoring - blocks of flats
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 10:22:56 PM »
We use a Passive Fire Protection Specialist Company which has experience in this area of work - although a good condition survey that looks at everything covers lots of bases, they aren't always too hot with the fire side and I've seen one on a site I dealt with that totally overlooked the 70k worth of essential passive and fire alarm works required - the enforcement officers of the FRS didn't however - it was fortunate that the work was already being planned after my FRA!
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