Fire doors in a "domestic" Bungalow??????

[SuzannaC]

This topic has been very educational.I am sorry I cannot offer anything specific which hasn't been already said.
Just a hypothetical situation. What if onbe of the service users mobility impaired and there is not support staff 24/7? I cannot find anything specific in HTM88 regarding this.

[William 29]

It would depend on the level of mobility but it would be unusual not to have any care staff provided.


To complete this topic the outcome was the client (landlord) decided after the determination was rejected by the EA to fit the FD30s doors to the bedrooms in two bungalows, 12 doors in total.

[jokar]

Wow, another result for prescription.  I assume that the client thought it best to acquiesce to the greater knowledge.  I just wish that the Government had written CBA into the legislation.

[William 29]

What's worse is the client has similar properties in the same area 5 or 6 I think.  The EA have already stated they intend to inspect those with the same sort of view on the doors. 

[Tom Sutton]

What's worse is the client has similar properties in the same area 5 or 6 I think.  The EA have already stated they intend to inspect those with the same sort of view on the doors. 

Assuming the landlord is willing and has the stomach for it, this would be a chance if you cannot agree with the FA go for a determination immediately, if the FA  refuses and serves an EO then appeal within the 21 days. The big question, would the landlord be willing to go out on a limb.

[William 29]

They may do exactly that?  Problem is that they have already fitted the doors in a similar property so that may be an issue?

In my view the EA are not using their enforcing powers in proportion to the risk and would even go as far as to say that they are not operating in accordance with the fire safety concordat.  What is very frustrating for us and the client is they have almost identical premises in other EA areas with less fire safety provisions (i.e. not an L2 part 1 AFD system) and the FRA and the premises has been accepted?  Now work that one out?
 

[jokar]

Umm Enforcement concordat signed by all FRS, proportionality and consistency are the keys words that they sign up to.  Write to the fire minister and explain the difficulties and ask for an explanation about how differing FRS approaches are procing a burden to business.  Get the client to keep records of the costs and use that as part of an evidence trail.