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Offline Psuedonym

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Emergency Stops
« on: July 26, 2011, 11:26:37 PM »
I have come across, on a far to frequent occasion, emergency stops blocked by fryers, within kitchens. Apart from the obvious issues, why aren't these picked up on a risk assessment? Are they included on the tick box sheet?
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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2011, 06:43:54 AM »
I have come across, on a far to frequent occasion, emergency stops blocked by fryers, within kitchens. Apart from the obvious issues, why aren't these picked up on a risk assessment? Are they included on the tick box sheet?
They should be. I would.
Tick box sheet obviously determines the extent of the assessment.
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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2011, 10:19:32 AM »
They certainly should be considered within the risk assessment, but as Nearlythere points out often Emergency Stop buttons are ommited from "tick box" type risk assessment forms.

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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2011, 06:18:33 PM »
But are staff trained to use them!

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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2011, 08:10:33 PM »
They will be as trained to use them as they are in using the pull stations on their Ansul system (if they have one!) ;)
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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 08:37:03 PM »
 ;D
I don't train them to use their Ansuls far too much grief recharching them, just pick up a portable Wet Chem, if there is one!

How do you say : "This is an Emergency Stop to be used in the event of a fire situation" in about 6 different languages? Or "er... well you should push it but you can't actually get to it because of the fryers blocking the access"
See my Facebook page for a couple of recent examples or www.safetyphoto.co.uk in a few days when i've got home and posted them. Feel free to use them for risk assessment training!

As for a risk assessment picking them up................ sorry, but I have yet to see that particular miracle occur   ;)
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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 11:01:03 AM »
Forget the facebook reference, they're removed. Apparently it's a bit dodgy under the Data Protection Act and my T&C's to produce a photo of an anonymous on site problem.
Bit strange that when we are then shown examples of issues during a training session of photo's downloaded from the net.  ::)

Ah well, best not to rock the boat lest one wants wet feet.....
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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 03:56:24 PM »

Forget the facebook reference, they're removed. Apparently it's a bit dodgy under the Data Protection Act and my T&C's to produce a photo of an anonymous on site problem.


Were you displaying company names that could be construed as advertising? I don't think that's allowed.

Returning to the issue of tick box forms, please don't rely on these to cover all possible faults.  If they were to do this they'd be a thousand pages long.  Purists hate them for their inadequacies, I'm not keen on them and don't use them but I do think they have their place under certain circumstances.

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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 10:59:57 PM »
Forget the facebook reference, they're removed. Apparently it's a bit dodgy under the Data Protection Act and my T&C's to produce a photo of an anonymous on site problem.
Bit strange that when we are then shown examples of issues during a training session of photo's downloaded from the net.  ::)

Ah well, best not to rock the boat lest one wants wet feet.....

I'll Photobucket them & put a link on here if you want, just send the originals, I can edit out anything that may give the location away too much..
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Re: Emergency Stops
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2011, 07:29:44 AM »
I think you will find that under the DPA the only photos that can be displayed to the public without the owner of the subject matter in the images consent are those that can be legitimately taken from a public place. That is what I have been taught anyway.

So displaying photos taken on someone’s premises here would probably be a breach of the DPA.

I would consult a lawyer first myself
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