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Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« on: May 10, 2013, 07:28:29 AM »
Is anything happening to raise standards and awareness in the fire alarm and electrical industries?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-21346501

There has been some focus in the fire alarm sector on the support of fire alarm cables which should be fire risisting anyway to maintain the integrity of the cable, but this is just the tip of the iceberg due to the number of other cables in a building.

Is anything happening to drive this  recommendation of the Coroner forward?

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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 10:21:50 AM »
Is anything happening to raise standards and awareness in the fire alarm and electrical industries?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-21346501

There has been some focus in the fire alarm sector on the support of fire alarm cables which should be fire risisting anyway to maintain the integrity of the cable, but this is just the tip of the iceberg due to the number of other cables in a building.

Is anything happening to drive this  recommendation of the Coroner forward?

I know that proper fire alarm system engineers are fully aware of the importance of ensuring cable fixings are fire resistant, and have been for many years now.

I cannot say what the situation is for other trades which use cables.

Furthermore, there is the issue of existing cabling which has been installed for many years.


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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 09:56:39 PM »
This hazard may also affect the means of escape of occupants especially through common corridors of residential flats during the early stage of a fire.

Duh, could the fire and rescue adviser or one of his minions possibly explain, in respect of the above quotation how on earth:

1. There will be a blazing inferno in the common parts during the early stages of a fire (almost certainly in a flat).

2. How people are supposed to use the means of escape during the said inferno.

3. By what means are the occupants to be alerted to this inferno in its early stages.

Besides which the chief fire and rescue adviser did not seem to want much to do with the coroners recommendations on the basis that the central govt view of fire safety is that its ntohing to do with us gov. Or have I misread the response.
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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 11:10:11 AM »
Sir Col I note our Welsh cousins are advertising for a Chief Fire & Rescue Adviser for Wales / HM Inspector for Crown Premises, on a £44,000 per annum part time basis - easy money !!!
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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 12:10:19 PM »
Did you say per £44k per ANNUM Midland? I think you will find that is somewhat less than Dottys hourly rate.

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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 09:44:01 PM »
Sir Col I note our Welsh cousins are advertising for a Chief Fire & Rescue Adviser for Wales / HM Inspector for Crown Premises, on a £44,000 per annum part time basis - easy money !!!

But must be able to drop words like "injan dan" into the conversation.
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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 10:28:39 AM »
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=13137

The New CFRA in front of a select committee, last night - fire safety gets covered after about 1-17-30

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Re: Southampton fire fighter deaths- coronors recommendation
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 12:31:31 AM »
Retters, working for the govt in england in fire policy is even eaier, cos the policy is that there is no policy.  I think all you need is wee brian and you could get shot of the rest of them.
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