Author Topic: Problems Installing Video Smoke detection (VSD)  (Read 10740 times)

Offline Messy

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Problems Installing Video Smoke detection (VSD)
« on: July 09, 2014, 09:11:05 PM »
I am working on a project where video smoke detection was installed around 6 months ago. The system has been plagued with problems and is still not commissioned or connected to the main fire alarm panel.

The problems all relate to a hugely excessive rate of unwanted actuations - up to 10 a day!. Most trigger a local alarm, but around 10% trigger a full alarm - or would do if they were connected to the main alarm system.

Investigations into the problem reveal a range of reasons for the UwFS which all involve changes in ambient light. They include:
> Fluorescent lighting being switched on and the previously dark room becoming illuminated
> Reflective/shiny surfaces moving through the camera's view.
> Low sunshine through a rapidly opened door
> A flashing warning light on some plant
> and even a rapid darkening of a room at sunset.

I cannot go into any specific details of the building or its use due to customer confidentiality, but this is highly embarrassing for me as I advised the use of VSD on an assurance from the suppliers that VSD was wholly suitable for the environment . This is the first project I have been involved with using VSD and am really rather disillusioned by this technology which offers so much, but in this case has failed to deliver.

I am considering issuing a deadline in which the installers must complete and issue a commissioning certificate or face losing this contract and further lucrative contracts worth perhaps GBP millions over the next decade but am not sure if there's any more I can do to resolve this matter before scrapping it.


So has anyone had experience installing VSD, and in particular, significant problems with unwanted fire signals? If so, can you share the problems and some the solutions you achieved - if any?

Or can anyone motivate me in this technology? Have you had any success with this kit or is it an 'Emperors new clothes' type technology?

Thanks
« Last Edit: July 09, 2014, 09:13:53 PM by Messy »

Offline jayjay

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Re: Problems Installing Video Smoke detection (VSD)
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2014, 12:13:08 AM »
I have seem one of these systems installed in a concert venue and it was working OK and I was not aware of it having any false alrms.

I have no connection to the company that installed the system but I am familiar with their work as they have fitted many wireless system in buildings that I have assessed.

If it is appropriate I can supply a contact and the company name. I am sure the director would be happy to discuss you concerns.

Email me direct if you think that would be more appropriate.

Offline Messy

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Re: Problems Installing Video Smoke detection (VSD)
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2014, 03:30:00 PM »
Jayjay. Thanks for the reply and the offer of assistance.

I have a meeting next week with the management of the premises to hear their view and I will know more of what they want to do. I may well get in touch depending on the outcome of that meeting.