Author Topic: Fire Door on Maglock  (Read 5027 times)

Offline Collegeboy

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Fire Door on Maglock
« on: November 03, 2021, 06:01:09 PM »
Hello people
are there any Fire Door gurus on here with an opinion to this question, ..

"Can you fit a maglock on a fire door with a green break glass and push bar or should the push bar be removed?"....

im thinking, Whats the point of having a green break glass if you`re going to hold it with a maglock  ???

thanks in anticipation

Offline Collegeboy

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Re: Fire Door on Maglock
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2021, 09:13:16 PM »
oh bugger, So sorry people,  Im looking at the above the totally wrong way  :'( DUH, what a plank, I was visualising a magnet hold open device  :-\ ( my head hurts) NOW re reading the question and thinking about it, IF the door is  "Maglocked" I should think that would be released on activation of the fire alarm, however, should the door need to be used in non alarm situation/ or mag failed on alarm activation, then the green mcp release would still be required, I`m pretty sure (I`ll look it up) activation should be one handed/one system for exit, so new question/opinion is Would you remove the Pushbar  ???

Offline Collegeboy

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Re: Fire Door on Maglock
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2021, 09:51:20 PM »
Hmmm, heres what I found,
App Doc B Vol2
Door fastenings
5.7 In general, doors on escape routes (whether or not the doors are fire doorsets) should be either
of the following.
a. Not fitted with a lock, latch or bolt fastenings.
b. Fitted only with simple fastenings that are all of the following.
i. Easy to operate; it should be apparent how to undo the fastening.
O N L I N E VERSION
48 Approved Document B Volume 2, 2019 edition Building Regulations 2010
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ii. Operable from the side approached by people escaping.
iii. Operable without a key.
iv. Operable without requiring people to manipulate more than one mechanism
Its that "Without requiring to manipulate more than one mechanism" that concerns me  ???
what youthink  ???

Offline Owain

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Re: Fire Door on Maglock
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2021, 06:16:51 PM »
I don't know of any maglocks that will release a pushbar latch in the UK. In the USA:
https://www.maglocks.com/sdc-quiet-duo-lr100-latch-retraction-dogging-kit.html

If you've got a pushbar why do you need a maglock?

Do you need a maglock to release on fire alarm but to prevent the door being used as a non-fire exit at other times, and/or a pushbar to prevent re-entry from outside during an alarm event?

You can get a pushbar that will break a maglock circuit but it doesn't have any physical locking action
https://www.electriclock.net/product/deedlock-panic-push-bar-for-exit-doors/