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Offline Martin Burford

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« Reply #30 on: May 05, 2006, 03:02:21 PM »
I too, cannot recall such a phrase being used during the seminar, at Bristol, I attended.  I would be interested to locate such a statement in the  Order.
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« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2006, 03:53:26 PM »
It looks like the quotation could have come from the Regulatory Impact Assessment for the RRO - this is the report required by the Regulatory Reform Act for new Orders made under it.  These assessments have a habit of saying there will be little or no financial implication on businesses as a result of the new order.

Just a tiny hint of sarcasm - cos its Friday

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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2006, 09:40:59 AM »
Please read the consultation reports on RR(FS) still availbale on the ODPM, is that John Prescott or now someone else, website.  Para 5.63, 7.4 and the regulatory tests from page 61 detail all this.  The document explains RR(FS)O and some of the peculiar bits that are in the current document.

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« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2006, 06:04:51 PM »
Blimey Jokar you've done your homework. Never thought that anybody actually read those things!
Will print them off and have a read at bedtime.

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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2010, 12:37:56 PM »
What does the panel think the highlighted part from the Regs means?

"8.    Signs requiring some form of power must be provided with a guaranteed emergency supply in the event of a power cut, unless the hazard has thereby been eliminated."
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2010, 01:26:18 PM »
NT
Presumably the power cut stopped the dangerous machine/process!


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« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2010, 02:09:48 PM »
NT
Presumably the power cut stopped the dangerous machine/process!


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Can't see the relationship between your dangerous machines and my signs.
My signs are the fire warning type.

Under interpretation :-
"warning sign" means a sign giving a warning of a risk to health or safety.
That indicates to me a sign can be fire warning signal.
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« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2010, 03:07:58 PM »
Hi NT

Absolutely. IMHO the section you have highlighted would apply to things like fire alarm sounders / fire warning signals etc too.

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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2010, 03:33:34 PM »
Hi NT

Absolutely. IMHO the section you have highlighted would apply to things like fire alarm sounders / fire warning signals etc too.

Middy. You're a clever cloggs.
Any idea what "............unless the hazard has thereby been eliminated." is all about?
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« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2010, 03:53:10 PM »
I can only pressume it relates more to general health safety matters such as process risk or machinery shut down as Davo mentioned.

I cant think of an occassion where this would apply directly to fire safety precautions, though I'm sure some of the even more cleverer clogs here probably will.

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« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2010, 09:35:12 PM »
Is it just typical meaningless gobbledegook legislation?
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« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2010, 08:55:28 AM »
What does the panel think the highlighted part from the Regs means?

"8.    Signs requiring some form of power must be provided with a guaranteed emergency supply in the event of a power cut, unless the hazard has thereby been eliminated."


the hazzard being the power cut itself and you could eliminate it by installing a generator?

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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2010, 09:17:50 AM »
What does the panel think the highlighted part from the Regs means?

"8.    Signs requiring some form of power must be provided with a guaranteed emergency supply in the event of a power cut, unless the hazard has thereby been eliminated."


the hazzard being the power cut itself and you could eliminate it by installing a generator?
I thinks maybe thats what it is trying to say Graeme, albeit very badly.
How do you eliminate the chance of a power cut?
Every time I read it I get more confused. But then it is Saturday morn and I'm off to Dublin's mecca very soon to see Oireland stuff Scotland and have a few bowls of Liffey Water.
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2010, 09:37:56 AM »
Don't forget these Regs were made under the HSW Act


A good example would be in a hearing protection zone where the hearing protection sign lights up when the Second Action Level is reached


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« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2010, 10:12:49 AM »

........But then it is Saturday morn and I'm off to Dublin's mecca very soon to see Oireland stuff Scotland and have a few bowls of Liffey Water.
Give a wave to our suits in the box in the Davin stand for me (it's the one with our name above it)!