Author Topic: thermal imaging camera (Read 13750 times)

Edward · « **on:** June 19, 2006, 12:07:46 AM »

hey,

we recently got donated to us 11 thermal image cameras. our division luckly enough got one. anyone got any manuals for these sort of cameras and when they should be used? as this is a totally new ball game to us using these devices and the only documentation we follow is the Fire Service Manual.

also on another note... is there a website i could sign up to, to get the ammendations they do to the FSM ? as the only update i got is about the physical section when it changed into IPDS. which strangely enough i found it to have much less info then the original.

Fireguy1230 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2006, 07:51:59 PM »

Hi Zeromike

What is the make and model of the TIC?

I'll have a rummage and see what i can find in my station for you. If i cant find any manuals i'm sure i can locate a training note for you.

Cheers

Lee

Peter · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2006, 09:07:25 PM »

Hi Zeromike

As to where/when you should use them - if your incident is not 'simple' and easy to see - use the tic, I have used them on heath/field fires, building fires - fire alarms (very useful when you have a large open building with the smell of something cooking in the electrical system - use it to spot the overheating fluorescent light fitting) search incidents assisting Police (less often now they have the helicopter). Also very useful post incident for confirming the fire is out.
remember - unlike light, you can't necessarily see through glass, and check your operators don’t forget the basics (feel/test floors, check the black bit showing in the viewfinder is solid before you walk on it) when using the tic in smoke/darkness.

Peter

Edward · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2006, 10:50:43 PM »

lee, dont know, just know we got 11 TIC's donated to us from merseyside...
peter, thanks loads for the info, does the leader of a team that are searching use the TIC? or people from the outside?

Fireguy1230 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2006, 07:01:40 PM »

Zeromike

If you are using the TIC in an internal search, it is best to commit a 3 man team. The team leader obviously leads the team and ensures the personal protection of the team, the second firefighter will have the TIC and carry out regular sweeps of the area (for casulaties, hot spots etc) and the third team member will take up the rear of the group, again providing protection for the TIC user. But its worth bearing in mind that the TIC is just a tool to be used along with everything else, and should not be totally relied upon or substituted for traditional methods, only used as an asset to them.

As Peter said, you can use the TIC for a multitude of incidents, not just internal fires. I've seen it used at an RTA to search for a casualty who had been thrown from a vehicle.

Lee

dave bev · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2006, 11:58:23 PM »

ive also seen it used to see which pies are cold or hot!

dave bev

Fireguy1230 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2006, 01:58:45 AM »

I don't eat pie's.

I'm an athlete.

Lee

Edward · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:24:14 PM »

reckon it would show if the beers are cold enough?

neal pick gmcusar · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2006, 10:40:07 PM »

only if the temperature differential was 2 degrees between beers, other than that the beer would appear the same shade of grey.
its amazing how much useless keecgh gets stuck in ones head.

make and model would help though.

Neal P

kurnal · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2006, 11:25:01 PM »

I have drunk many " grey" beers in the past- but dont remember keecgh- just headaches.

Shipstones and Home Ales were two makes, bitter and mild were the model. Hope this helps

wee brian · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2006, 11:32:58 AM »

They can be handy finding fires in the cavities of timber frame houses.

dsbrett · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2006, 05:32:00 PM »

Hi Zeromike,
for guidelines, strategies, etc. for TICs (or just about any fire related subject, for that matter), I would recommend you look at the National Fire Protection Association (www.nfpa.org) and Firehouse Magazine (www.firehouse.com). The NFPA provides standards and codes for the use of TICs and training in general, Firehouse offers training guidelines and strategies specifically for TICs, they have a monthly TIC column in the magazine as well as forums and artciles on the web site. Access requires a subscription but it's well worth the money.

Edward · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2006, 10:17:41 PM »

make and model will be known when they've been dispatched, unless someone from merseyside can say what make and model went missing lol

dsbrett, tnx loads, gonna check the sites out now

Edward · « **Reply #13 on:** July 15, 2006, 10:01:56 PM »

right... the TIC has come in my hands today, and being the guy thats supposed to know it all i had a play around. found it really nice, took the guys in a smoke logged room (smoke signal thrown in the room and guys with BA's) and told them to look at the other side to see the other guys. they were pretty impressed at the fact that they could see "clear" through the TIC and nothin in the room coz of the smoke signal.

the TIC is a Talisman K somethin, can check number if u guys want as the SOP is downstairs but too tired to go get it after a whole day training in this heat.

a funny story though, was checkin it out at first in the stores.... this girl was being kitted for her first time going down abseiling by some of our rescuers, anyway... it was quite funny to realise that the TIC was showing certain heat readings that otherwise is hard to see, revealing certain details that her top was preventing us to see

quite funny to be honest, she kinda figured out that somethin was wrong as 3 guys gathered onto me to see too whilst the camera was pointing at her. poor girl hehe

Edward · « **Reply #14 on:** August 03, 2006, 12:44:03 AM »

any1 got an SOP or Manual for this TIC?

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Author Topic: thermal imaging camera (Read 13750 times)