Fire check doors

[johno12345]

Hi,

I am doing fire risk assessments for our factory and I am puzzled over some fire doors. The previous H&S guy put a "fire door" sticker on every door in the place. I know that doors leading onto a protected area should be fire resisting but what about the doors leading to inner rooms when there is only one door to the inner room?

I cant seem to find any guidance on this anywhere.

Your help is appriciated.

Thanks

[wee brian]

Fire doors are doors designed to stop fire spreading from one place to another. This wouldnt normall be necessary for an inner inner room situation.

[Richard Earl]

i agree but dont forget the room the inner room is in should have a detector in for early warning for the inner room occupant

[johno12345]

Hi,

Thanks for the responses. I didnt think that they needed to be fire doors but the stickers made me doubt myself. There are no detectors anywhere - primarily due to the fact that we have a 240V 3 wire manual system! (something else for the RA)

Edited to add: The inner room is a store room for stationary and the like. The outer room has a total of 4 inner rooms in it, one with an inner inner room. There is also an open wooden staircase that I have designates as not a fire exit. The whole area has access to 1 protected lobby leading to an ultimate final exit. There is another door but has a shutter on it so cannot be classed as a fire exit. It's beginning to baffle me!

In a situation where there are 2 adjacent offices, each with their own exit onto protected routes, those exits should be FDs, as should be the adjoining doors between the office but if one office exits through the other then it wouldnt need to be a FD. If that sounds corect, then I think I have grasped it....


Thanks for listening to my waffle.

[Thebeardedyorkshireman]

Sorry to be picky but the 240V system is not one for the fire RA. You are in contravention of the H&S safety signs and signals regulations 1996 (something like that title anyway). You probably understand the implications of this as well as anybody. You are not alone!
Dave

[johno12345]

yeah, I know it is a contravention, just got to make out a report detailing the legal implications of it - much of the info from this website

[Richard Earl]

im not an expert johno, but i think that if a fire alarm company has been serviceing it you might be well advised to look for a third party accreddited company as i feel they have not serviced it to bs. i dont think as a service company we would be aloud to service the system!!!!

email me and i will find out from our design team on friday

richard.1.earl@tecservuk.com

[johno12345]

Hi,

It is serviced to the 1989 BS. His certs show that it is a non-compliant system and has many problem areas. However, there will be no-one on this planet that will take over the servicing on it. So it is better left as it is at the moment because if it breaks at the moment, at least it gets repaires. No contract then FA out of action for 3-4 months while a new one is fitted.

For comparison, at the moment we have 23 call points and the new one has a requirement for 188! It is hard to justify the expenditure when the existing system makes a noise occasionally.