Author Topic: Fire service defends duck rescue (Read 23496 times)

nearlythere · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2007, 12:31:21 PM »

Regarding cats stuck up trees has anyone ever seen the skeleton of a cat up a tree yet? Clearly they all make their way down the tree at some time,

Pip · « **Reply #16 on:** September 12, 2007, 01:00:44 PM »

1)its not the fire services job to sort out the fire alarm,certainly not to that type of response.Ultimately we would give advice to drive down consistent false AFA's, but if they ignore advice/continue to have false alarms then we will cease to respond(except in particular circumstances.)
2)rescuing ducks-as mentioned by others only at request of RSPCA,if and when equipment /personel available,always available for emergency calls,may present a good training opportunity,ususally good p.r.

Dinnertime Dave · « **Reply #17 on:** September 12, 2007, 01:28:41 PM »

Pip, I agree entirely. As a fire safety inspecting officer I am constantly being asked by my Area Commander to reduce the number of unwanted fire signals, then I hear crews being mobilised to the above. I am not overly keen on call challenging but in this case it would be justified.

I would have loved to have been the Officer in Charge of the appliance - check around with a TIC, agreed there was no fire and left them with an alarm sounding.

Pip · « **Reply #18 on:** September 12, 2007, 03:03:43 PM »

We have had an unwanted afa reduction strategy in place for about a year or so (with a dedicated team)that has reduced significantly(and ahead of target) our false alarms.On site,we are not allowed to reset alarm panels,and in the case quoted earlier,we wouldn't have a key anyway(except for the crowbar variety of course!)

Pip · « **Reply #19 on:** September 12, 2007, 03:07:17 PM »

Come next year,those premises that have not registered with us will not get a response(again some exceptions for life risks) and those that have will only get a response if they confirm by 999 it is fire in line with CFOA policy).Those with multi false alarms won't get a response if they fail to adress their systems(again in line with CFOA policy)

Big T · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:07:03 AM »

Isn't responding to these instances more about preventing the owner from hurting themselves trying to rescue the pet, rather than actually saving the animal?

Dinnertime Dave · « **Reply #21 on:** September 18, 2007, 10:58:36 AM »

Quote from: Pip

Come next year,those premises that have not registered with us will not get a response(again some exceptions for life risks) and those that have will only get a response if they confirm by 999 it is fire in line with CFOA policy).Those with multi false alarms won't get a response if they fail to adress their systems(again in line with CFOA policy)

Doesn`t this policy suggest fee of 35 pound to be registered. It is my understanding that this amount doesn`t cover the cost of administering the registration.

Pip · « **Reply #22 on:** September 18, 2007, 12:44:47 PM »

Quote from: Dinnertime Dave

Quote from: Pip
Come next year,those premises that have not registered with us will not get a response(again some exceptions for life risks) and those that have will only get a response if they confirm by 999 it is fire in line with CFOA policy).Those with multi false alarms won't get a response if they fail to adress their systems(again in line with CFOA policy)
Doesn`t this policy suggest fee of 35 pound to be registered. It is my understanding that this amount doesn`t cover the cost of administering the registration.

Thats the figure we are charging-could not tell you if that covers our costs.It is a 'once only' charge.

firedodger · « **Reply #23 on:** September 21, 2007, 03:38:54 PM »

Getting back to the original duck thing, the journalist who wrote this story up in the sun used to be assistant editor of a local free paper round this way. We well remember his series of editorials railing against the fire service (mainly centred around accusations of laziness and cosy working conditions; god knows where he got that from) and were mystified as to why he was picking on us in particular as we usually get an indescriminately easy ride from the press.

It turns out (and this is only hearsay) that his partner had left him for a Firefighter and this was his manly journalistic way of working through the pain of rejection.

This was more than seven years ago so although he has moved on in journalism (in the sense that the sun isn't free) he still apears to be angry with all things fire brigade, so much so that even a good deed done for a duck on a slow day duty gets more coverage than Darfur or human trafficking.

Although this post in no way adresses the problem of wether Ducks should be rescued or not it might go some way to explaining why such a relatively common incident got so much coverage. Did anyone, other than Mr Walker, who bears no malice towards Ducks but hates firemen, really care ?

Pip · « **Reply #24 on:** September 21, 2007, 04:51:20 PM »

no,I dont think they give a 'hoot'.

firedodger · « **Reply #25 on:** September 21, 2007, 04:53:12 PM »

They're only in it for the qwack

Andy Cole · « **Reply #26 on:** September 21, 2007, 07:03:39 PM »

Quote from: firedodger

They're only in it for the qwack

You beat me to that!!:)

Chris Houston · « **Reply #27 on:** December 21, 2007, 11:01:23 PM »

And again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7155656.stm

This time apparently involving fire fighters wading into a canal to get a duck. This issue still confuses me, especially when I think of the recent discussions about water rescues of humans....

messy · « **Reply #28 on:** December 22, 2007, 09:56:10 AM »

Ahh....How sweet.... The duck laid an egg after they rescued it.

Well that's breakfast and lunch sorted then!

johno67 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 22, 2007, 10:12:13 AM »

Is this not yet another case of Nepotism in the Fire Service. Is Station Commander Paul STARLING just looking after his extended family!

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Author Topic: Fire service defends duck rescue (Read 23496 times)

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