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Offline nearlythere

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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2007, 09:19:19 AM »
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Has anyone ever sat down and calculated the damage to the environment from an uncontrolled fire as compared to one quickly extinguished but with 1.5kg of BCF?
Fairish point John but I would think the Montreal Protocol is more political tokenism than anything else. If the politicians were really that concerned about the environment they would have had the summit by video conferencing rather than spewing goodness knows what out of the tail pipes of the numerous Boeings getting them and their hangers on there.
Mind you video conferencing means no 4 star hotel, condon bleu cuisine or somewhere for the wife or husband to get freebe goods on the backs of their free loading spouses.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2007, 10:56:59 AM »
Nearlythere,
Quite! It irked me considerably when I worked at the Fire Research Station that our political masters in the then DoE just said "No more BCF." No consultation with their experts (ie us) and not even the opportunity for us to suggest that there could be a slightly different viewpoint on the subject.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2007, 12:43:06 PM »
V.interesting AnthonyB.thankyou.

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2007, 01:46:11 PM »
The montreal protocol was about protecting the Ozone layer - global warming hadn't got into the limelight at that time.

There were/are alternatives around that didn't cause the same problems so it makes perfect sense that they were taken off the shelves. Of course CO2 is still in use????

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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2007, 08:09:08 PM »
Of course whilst good old Europe stopped the use of BCF et al except for special risks* it's still produced and used in India & the Middle and Far East.

The USA still uses it, although they are catching up & using alternatives, despite some alternatives such as Halotron being banned over here as still too damaging


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• In fire extinguishers essential to personal safety used for initial extinguishing by fire brigades
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2007, 09:19:25 PM »
You should write a book. Come to think of it - its easier to ask you.