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Offline nimrodsin

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« on: December 23, 2007, 11:34:38 AM »
Does anyone know at what date, currently serviced (n date) and maintained extinguishers painted in the old (BS) colours, are required to be removed and replaced with the BS EN 3 colours (i.e 5% of the extinguisher body in the old colour and rest in red). I believe the cut off date is 31st Dec 2007, but I am not sure.

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2007, 01:13:36 PM »
The old extinguishers may be kept until they are life-expired, taken as 20 years from date of make (see side of extinguisher) for water, powder and foam, or if they fail a test discharge before then.
CO2 extinguishers are required to be pressure tested every 10 years, and should be changed then.
Well, that's what I understand the situation to be!
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2007, 05:10:48 PM »
There is no cut off date - anyone saying so is very wrong and may have a hidden agenda if they just happen to service or sell extinguishers.

They may continue in service until unsafe for use - there is no statutory lifespan, the 20 years is just advisory. Water & Foams will eventually throw off their poly linings and rust so don't go on forever, but in theory a powder in a non harsh environment will go on and on.

CO2s go on for ever as long as they are pressure tested every 10 years and cylinders that are 20, 30 & 40 years old can still be found. When pressure tested they are however, normally renovated as well and repainted in red. There is no reason to replace a CO2 extinguisher at 10 years,  just service exchange it for a retested one - suppliers prefer to make you buy new as they make more money out of it.

Waters, foams and powders can also be renovated in red and before the influx of cheap far eastern extinguishers was not uncommon as cheaper than new. Renovating does not make the extinguisher EN3 compliant - it just matches the all red colour scheme.

It is ironic that in an age where we are encouraging recycling that less & less extinguishers are being recycled. Powders and CO2s were routinely refurbished in years gone by with no adverse safety or performance effects, yet now (mainly due to cheap foreign imports, the resulting price war and desperation to sell in quantity) we use more virgin steel, aluminium, brass and plastic than ever before in new extinguishers.


BSEN3 is a manufacturing standard only & has no bearing on installation and use. You can still install new extinguishers that are not red, the most common example being stainless steel/polished aluminium bodied extinguishers.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2007, 05:41:58 PM »
I agree wholeheartedly with Anthony, there is no life expiry date. 20 years is suggested by extinguisher manufacturers and some sellers. The obvious reasons for this age 'limit' have nothing to do with whether the extinguisher is actually still serviceable! As the standard for the manufacture changing from BS5423 to BS EN3 this was in 1997 and, in many cases, only changed the paint used. This change doe smena there are extinguishers that may be only ten years old in the prior colour.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2007, 07:20:25 PM »
My figure of 20 years comes from the advice issued by Property Services Agency, the successor to the Ministry of Public Buildings and Works, some 20+ years ago. British Standards are modified over the years allowing changes to the design of extinguishers; in my 30+ years they have been altered to allow controlled discharges and foam spray extinguishers, for two examples. So there may be technical reasons why the occasional purchase of new extinguishers isn't a bad idea. And the 'bean counters' like to give things a set life for budget and investment calculations so you can wave that at them if need be.

But I quite agree with the other posters - there is very much a "chuck it away" mentality in some quarters. I've had to reassure a number of my churches over the years that they didn't have to replace extinguishers with newly painted ones; usually after some wretched salesman has been round spouting nonsense!
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