C.a.r.p

[Little phil]

hi

We have been told the carps will stay in the 2 citys for there life,about 8 years.Do you think cost will spiral as  the busiest city pump does about 25000 miles a year so that makes about 200k for its life.Will it then go as they say or will they keep splashing the cash to keep it going.White elephant or value for money? WE will see when we get them at the end of the year, then another 6 months with training and risk assessments.They keep spending on our ageing water carrier a L reg monster merc.When it goes dont think they will replace it which will leave just one for the county.

[Rich]

Little Phil,

Are we in the same brigade?  Is the ageing water carrier based in the centre of the brigade?

[Little phil]

Yes mate its still sat there, read your previous posts and could of bet a lot of money you were just up the road.

[gv7]

If only they done what it says on the tin. Go round corners, supply water and other unimportant stuff like that.

[Clevelandfire]

Blimey! not good. I hear the West Midlands Fire Service are getting small CARPs based on Mercedes Atego chasis? I don't think they are rescue platforms I think the aerial equipment is mainly a monitor which can be positioned to chuck water at a blaze from on high? ANyone able to shed more light on whether they are true CARPS or more like the old Simonitors?

[The Craw]

just to add a bit.. my station just lost our ALP and we have now got a Combi. its a volvo chassis witha multistar ladder.  We have had an endless list of problems with the ladder side of the combi but the pump is ok.  As our second pump at my station it is a complete poltis. Slow and carries half the equipment that the first pump does and only 900 litres of water.  BA crew has to sit backwards - not too pleasant.  the thing is C.R.A.P not CARP!  all our watches dislike the thing but the top brass wanted it and they got rid of 1 job off evry shift.  

[Andy Cole]

.....  Also if we are rid of our current TL's and the CARP goes OTR for service/repair etc we will have no aerial capability apart from to call the other CARP stationed 40 miles away which depletes its own area of fire and aerial cover.

I really am trying to see the positives with these machines but I suspect they have been purchased without doing enough background research!

Isn't that what happens when the ALP goes OTR anyhow?

[adamant19uk]

Read something about Humbersides CARP being frequently OTR.
Anyone know anything about this?
Any brigades having success with them?

[kris8583]

I work in humberside and our carp is off the run most of the time with technical problems. General feeling is that they are simply too large for many of the streets in our area and not very practible. The issues surrounding attending an incident in the local area will cause many problems, delayed response times etc, the ideas there but i personally dont think the carp as it stands is the answer.

Job shuffles for the station involved have happened since it arrived and dont think we have seen the last of it yet