Firefighter/first responders

[Guest]

whether they be retained or wholetime..the unions stance was bang out of order...saving lives is our priority,which the union dissagrees with.and furthermore...its only the lads at Grantham station that have been expelled.Other retained lads at purely retained staions in Lincolnshire havnt been expelled.....now its not rocket science to work out the logic behind tht one.Grantham is day manned,w/t-ret,so they can afford to have a few members expelled...but the union have got to keep the boys in the sticks sweet...(just in case they need some support on the next strike)..so if anyone has a valid arguement as to why the FBU is employing double standards...id love to hear it...


Now we know FBU reps read these pages..and they are extremely quiet on this one

[Guest]

i did a long reply but got bored!

simple answer - if they havent been subject of an official comlaint then no action can be taken, so if youre not happy - deal with it instead of moaning on here!

if they have been subject of an official complaint and this hasnt been actioned there are processes for that aswell, again someone needs to raise the issue via the regional sec

dave bev

ps im still bored

[Guest]

FBU has always had double standards. As a TUC affiliate we should abide by the socialist principle of one man one job. How then does this fit with the retained duty system and w/t who engage in part time work. Fact is unless you do abide by this principle you have been in breach of ethical trade union policy and the union has tolerated such actions for years.
Double standards, its a fact of life.
Mike.

[Guest]

i also used to smack my children then campaign against violence!

yes, youre right there are double standards in everythng we do and i accept it goes on, but when i really feel agrieved i do something about it

not sure of the tuc socialist principle of one 'man' etc ...... now that is double standards what about women .. though my missus would say she already has more than one job

retained - no probs as far as im concernend, wt working part time - fine by me - just pay the taxes etc -

ethical trade union policies - youre going to have to provide the evidence for the specific policies including the one person one job sketch.

ps the fbu doesnt have a monopoly on getting things wrong sometimes, though i do believe the members and officials of the fbu try to do things correctly.

like my school reports used to say 'could do better' i would hazard a guess that they would still say that now plus 'room for improvement'

but then i never thought i was the finished article!

but this is the finished article or rather the last article im posting in this thread cos this discussion isnt actually resolving anything or informing anyone of anything other than personal opinions, if you want things to change then try to change them as part of the union movement and preferably the fbu, you wont change them on here!

[Guest]

Sorry Dave if i appear to be having a go. The point i am making is that far from nit picking we all must accept the existance and on occasions validity of double standards. For example in modern society political correctness produces impractical policies that exist on paper only due to their implementation being out of touch with reality.
As for the point about 'one person one job' this was an old chestnut uttered by a previous branch official of mine. I believe he was referring to a policy from the 70's when there was an increase in manufacturing industry unemployment and a 3 day week. Needless to say it has never been adhered to and indeed said union official moonlighted on his days off.
I myself don't get bogged down in the unfairness or hypocrisy of double standards. As you said we all have them to a greater or lesser degree and on occasion choose to practice other than what we preach.
C'est la vie mon ami.