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« on: June 14, 2008, 12:40:13 PM »
Date: 11 June 2008

The owner of a local hairdressers has been ordered to pay £8,000 in fines and costs after pleading guilty to breaches of fire safety legislation.

Thames Magistrates' Court fined Mustafa Ismail, £4,000 for nine breaches of the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005.

The Brigade investigated the premises on the 20 March 2007 and found a number of faults including no emergency lighting in the basement, no fire alarm and no smoke detection system. A notice was issued giving four months to fix the problems but when the inspectors returned on the 20 July 2007 they discovered that no works has been carried out.

The Judge noted that the offences were serious breaches of fire regulations and that the defendant had a history of non-compliance. She continued that had there been a fire at The Cutting Room and Beauty Basement on Middlesex Street, E1 there was a possibility of someone dying due to the lack of fire precautions.

The Defendant maintained that all the outstanding contraventions have now been remedied.

Assistant Commissioner for Fire Safety Regulation Max Hood said: “It is important that business owners and employers understand that they must take responsibility for fire safety very seriously within their properties. I would like to thank the inspecting officers for their hard work in bringing forward this conviction.”

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2008, 12:50:09 PM »
Nice one Messy, good to see the legisltion working somewhere other than Lancs.

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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 01:56:46 PM »
bravo!

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2008, 04:03:28 PM »
well done chaps and chapesses

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2008, 05:42:33 PM »
LFB have been busy, have a look at this one, cost the property company £17,000
http://www.workplacelaw.net/news/display/id/15223

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2008, 01:25:28 PM »
Or if you dont want to register with workplace law

http://www.london-fire.gov.uk/news/detail.asp?id=960

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2008, 02:00:08 PM »
Again, good news to see the fine, but again only following a fire.  They were in breach of the regs before the fire too.

£11,000 to most large property management companis is probably less than the cost of fixing the fire doors and fire alarm accross a portfolio of businesses and seems very low for almost killing 4 people.

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 09:26:47 PM »
To be fair Chris, this 'post fire' audit procedure has only really be developed by the LFB since the FSO was introduced to take into account the enforcement status with comes with the Order. A fire is seen to be merely a trigger for such audits which are carried out  in addition to programmed audits.

Yes in the past a FS IO would often (if not always) attend after a serious fire. But now we attend - unannouced- after EVERY fire - Whatever the cause and whatever the size - Even if in residential property if we suspect that premise has common parts (ie flats).

In addition to attending 'real' fires, I have been to audits originating from smoking toast setting off the AFD and subsequently being record as a fire for the sake of  records (FDR1) and following an overheated lift and the good old favourite, an over heated choke on a strip light fitting. All get an audit and many audits pick up difficulties.

So although I accept that post fire audits look like a limp & retrospective 'stable door policy', there is real evidence to suggest than many (but not all) fires occur as a failing in management or systems which benefit from an immediate audit. Also in the case of arson, many premises targetted will receive a repeat visit by the vandal, so again, early intervention by the Brigade can be useful.

Lastly, although the company involved here were perhaps, as you put it: 'in breach of the regs before the fire too', it is not the responsibility or fault of the local FRS if that situation occurs. That's clearly down to the resp person, and post fire visits will often discover any disregard for the regs and act accordingly.

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 08:01:03 AM »
Being able to use this as a way in to the property, allows for potential larger risks to be ighlighted and maybe then, save lives.

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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 10:06:58 AM »
Messy, totaly accept all your points.  And must agree that post fire audits are an excellent idea.

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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 06:15:47 PM »
Lets not knock prosecutions that have arisen after a fire. They still sends out a message to other businesses. Routine audits pick upon a lot of potential problems before they occur and stop fires from starting. But inspectors cant be everywhere at once and sometimes it does take a fire and post fire investigation to highlight failings. Eitherway as far as Im concerned justice prevails and that is extremely important, though of course it is immensley saddening if someone is injured or killed as a result.

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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 07:00:51 PM »
So why aren't these prosecutions on the 9 o'clock news to put the fear of god into the company directors rather than getting a pargraph in the local rag if that .......???

It would be the best free publicity anyone could wish for.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 07:22:21 PM »
Cos an £11,000 fine aint national news.  News producers need to attract viewers to gain advertising revenue, BBC excepted, but as still measured in viewing figured.

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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2008, 02:26:47 PM »
I see a Suffolk Hotel has just been given a £200,000 fine.

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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2008, 02:29:03 PM »
Quote from: Big A
I see a Suffolk Hotel has just been given a £200,000 fine.
Got any more details?