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Offline pjwallis

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« on: July 03, 2008, 08:13:53 PM »
Hi

Does any one know of any software available for the design of fire alarm systems?

Regards

Offline Allen Higginson

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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2008, 08:26:31 PM »
Not sure how this would work - you have to look at the building drawings,decide which category of system and then how it's achieved.Not easy to do in the sort of "input info for result" way.

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2008, 09:28:00 PM »
I use Autocad

Offline Allen Higginson

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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2008, 11:08:26 PM »
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I use Autocad
Doh!!!Well,aside from using that.
I haven't advanced that far yet so use paint instead!

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 07:36:24 PM »
"autocad"?, "Paint"?,

I use both of those drafting applications but for the life of me have not come accross the plugin which enables me to survey a site from my desktop, nor one which understands the appropriate application of BS5839-1:2002 v2.
My bet is that pjwallis is looking for assistance from a piece of software which will do the design for him.

My best advice is to engage the services of a BAFE accredited company to carry out the design for him and if he then wants to install it himself, engage a BAFE Certified company to verify the compliance of his installation and should he wish to have the system properly commissioned, Handed over and maintained then he should engage ........ well answers on a post card!

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 11:34:11 AM »
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My best advice is to engage the services of a BAFE accredited company to carry out the design for him and if he then wants to install it himself, engage a BAFE Certified company to verify the compliance of his installation and should he wish to have the system properly commissioned, Handed over and maintained !
and what about in the real world?

Offline jim

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2008, 12:42:41 PM »
Well Graeme,
this is the real world, perhaps you would like to visit.

Offline Allen Higginson

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2008, 01:40:52 PM »
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Well Graeme,
this is the real world, perhaps you would like to visit.
I think what Graham was trying to say (and he is more than capable for speaking for himself and will no doubt do so) is that in theory that is what should be happening but in reality it doesn't.
Personally I think that it amounts to little more than a paper making and file keeping excercise, generating recurring revenue to the inspection body - much of this record keeping is already taking place if you have an ISO.

Offline Marcos Figaro

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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2008, 02:42:27 PM »
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Hi

Does any one know of any software available for the design of fire alarm systems?

Regards
This is an equation of many unknown parameters.

You need to know the specifications; level of protection .... etc and then start your design manually on the CAD drawing while respecting the distance and so on....  then report your design on CAD software. any CAD software would do it... but you need to have the fire alarm system's symbols ready for you... just drag and drop devices on the right place and then merge the drawing together ...

some people uses just word processing to design a rough drawing and locate their devices also they zone it with different colors to show a clear zone chart to...

hope this help

Chio

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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2008, 06:22:24 PM »
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Well Graeme,
this is the real world, perhaps you would like to visit.
i think i will someday if it's a lovely picture as you paint,where an electricain does not partake in a fire install as he has no specialist knowledge but seeks the help of qualified professionals to help him.... =D

sounds really nice and do you have chocolate fountains and beer free everyday down there?

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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2008, 07:51:54 AM »
The Great Wall of China was started to keep the slugs off the lettuce

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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2008, 08:01:01 AM »
The Great Wall is fast disappearing because the peasants can find better uses for its building blocks!
Likewise with BAFE.  Until BAFE developes teeth it has little relevance in the real world.

Offline Allen Higginson

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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2008, 09:53:57 AM »
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The Great Wall is fast disappearing because the peasants can find better uses for its building blocks!
Likewise with BAFE.  Until BAFE developes teeth it has little relevance in the real world.
...and that about sums it up in a nutshell.

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2008, 12:21:41 PM »
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The Great Wall is fast disappearing because the peasants can find better uses for its building blocks!
Likewise with BAFE.  Until BAFE developes teeth it has little relevance in the real world.
I don't totally disagree but you know the scenario, the peasants use the blocks to build cosy little pads for themselves, the slugs eat the lettuce, the rats eat the rice and there is no food left for those of us who built the wall in the first place.
We need a better wall.

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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2008, 12:36:44 PM »
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Quote from: John Dragon
The Great Wall is fast disappearing because the peasants can find better uses for its building blocks!
Likewise with BAFE.  Until BAFE developes teeth it has little relevance in the real world.
I don't totally disagree but you know the scenario, the peasants use the blocks to build cosy little pads for themselves, the slugs eat the lettuce, the rats eat the rice and there is no food left for those of us who built the wall in the first place.
We need a better wall.
Didn't know being a philosopher was now part of being on this forum!!