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Re: UK PROSECUTIONS
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2014, 11:26:15 AM »
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« Reply #91 on: January 02, 2015, 11:39:34 AM »
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All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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« Reply #93 on: April 03, 2015, 09:38:11 PM »
Re the hotel prosecution, the article in question contains numerous inaccuracies.
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Re: UK PROSECUTIONS
« Reply #95 on: April 04, 2015, 08:55:23 AM »
CT What are the numerous inaccuracies it appears to follow the LFB report?
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« Reply #96 on: April 04, 2015, 05:27:02 PM »
Landlord who pocketed 4000 pounds a month cramming 16 people in house jailed after blaze broke out.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/landlord-who-pocketed-4k-month-5456064
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« Reply #97 on: April 04, 2015, 05:53:53 PM »
Tony and Tam, the LFEPA website also contains inaccuracies, including an allegation that the Defendant pleaded guilty to one charge to which he did not even need to plea because it was dropped!  It is not currently appropriate for me to outline the other inaccuracies.
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« Reply #98 on: April 04, 2015, 11:31:16 PM »
Here's my thoughts on this. I found the tone of some of the reporting of this case rather nauseating though it's a fact of life that PR departments and the newspapers never get a story 100% right. It's not the role of the fire service to go out to "secure big fines" that's for the courts to decide.

Lets stand back and look at the salient points.

Abject management of fire safety in a hotel placed relevant persons at risk in case of fire.
The fire service took some initial steps through enforcement measures  to reduce the risk. When their enforcement action and advice went unheeded they took action in the courts. The court agreed with the fire service and the responsible person was punished.

We are all safer as a result of robust enforcement by the fire service and the message this gives to others who may also put people's lives at risk through their ignorance or neglect of duty. That is a very good thing.

Publicity supports the promulgation of this important message. Unfortunately that's  when  the PR people take over. Their  agenda is unlike ours, most of us being interested only in protecting people from fire. The PR machine  exists to promote the public image and status of the brigade.  Their presentation is characterised by notes of victory and triumphalism. The celebratory nature of the news story in several media streams I found a turn off. I was sorry that lives had been put at risk, I was glad that the fire service had taken decisive action, that a firm example had been made of those responsible and that this would give a strong message to others. To go further is akin to cheering at a public hanging.
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« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2015, 06:19:54 PM »
It would also be nice if the PR machine actually got their facts right and did not promulgate misinformation.  Big Al, the difference is that the Court of Appeal cannot easily reverse a public hanging.......
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« Reply #100 on: April 07, 2015, 07:37:30 AM »
On 10th November 2014 Mr Eli Zohar pleaded guilty to two offences under the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 following inspection of 38 Westminster Road, Morecambe by Lancashire Fire and Rescue Service.

Total of 10,500 in fines and he was also ordered to pay 12,000 in costs to the fire service and a 120 victim surcharge.

http://www.lancsfirerescue.org.uk/2015/01/fire-safety-prosecution-38-westminster-road-morecambe/
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« Reply #101 on: April 13, 2015, 07:50:35 AM »
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« Reply #102 on: April 13, 2015, 11:50:06 AM »
On the 18th March 2015 Lancashire Fire and Rescue Service successfully prosecuted Mr Stuart De?Ath, the landlord of a number of premises in the Lytham St Annes area, for eighteen separate breaches of the Regulatory Reform (Fire Safety) Order 2005 relating to three of his premises.

Seems like a very apt name for the landlord.  ;D
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