Author Topic: Fire Safety Adjournment Debate (Read 15805 times)

mark1london · « **on:** February 02, 2005, 12:27:29 PM »

Anyone seen the Hansard of this - makes interesting reading. Only the front bench spokesmen for the Lib Dems and Conservatives turned up.

Labour Mp's totalled 9

Of the 16 MP's on the All Party Fire Safety Group- precisely 3 turned up. Begs the question do those MP's on the Group really care about Fire Safety or not.

Any thoughts on the debate itself?

Mark · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2005, 02:40:34 PM »

Mark1

Have you got a url link on the hansard page on this storey?

Thx

Mark

wee brian · « **Reply #2 on:** February 03, 2005, 08:23:58 AM »

This was an adjourment debate - A dozen MPs at one of those is well above average.

Gel · « **Reply #3 on:** February 03, 2005, 10:16:20 PM »

Great & the good are here:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmparty/041217/memi234.htm

wee brian · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2005, 08:22:28 AM »

OK I've found it on Hansard;

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmhansrd/cm050127/halltext/50127h01.htm#50127h01_head1

Mark · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2005, 09:47:32 AM »

Thx

Wee Brian

dave bev · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2005, 09:09:00 AM »

a dozen mp's - their advisers outnumbered them, oh and dont forget those that attended to 'observe' - how sad must they be (anyone who answers that in a negative manner may weel be shot following the impending revolution!)

mark1london · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2005, 10:39:34 AM »

werent you there Dave?

Mark · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2005, 12:48:48 PM »

Your modern day Guy Fawkes

dave bev · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2005, 10:54:14 PM »

markx2 - your days may well be numbered if you continue with this thread!

Gel · « **Reply #10 on:** February 12, 2005, 08:10:16 AM »

WELL FOUND.
Lot of talk on Kitchens, but can't see any ref to Heat Alarms, the only sort suitable for Kitchens, and interlinked to smoke alarms of course.
Smoke alarms even with hush are not recommended for kitchens.

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OK I've found it on Hansard;

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmhansrd/cm050127/halltext/50127h01.htm#50127h01_head1

Mark · « **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2005, 10:08:57 AM »

Are heat alarms fitted as standard in new homes now?

Gel · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2005, 12:18:30 PM »

In England & Wales under Approved Document B, [from 2000] they are required, along with 1 interlinked smoke alarm per floor, but its dependent on kitchen layout, so not all are caught.

If there's a door between kitchen & escape route it isnt mandatory;
my view is that even if door is installed, its highly likely the doors will be left ajar/open, so negating implied benefit..of it being partial fire stop.

SCOTLAND still has no H/Alarm requirement but their causes of fire show kitchen location as the source of most Residential fires; recall in last ODPM figures I saw it was 57%.

In US they do permit smoke alarms in kitchens however Mark, on assumption
that they have much larger kitchens, better air circulation.

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Are heat alarms fitted as standard in new homes now?

wee brian · « **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2005, 09:29:23 PM »

I doubt the heat alarm will do any good anyway. People Hurt in kitchen fires are often already aware that there is one (i.e. it’s their own fault).

The ones that do need warning will be better served by the smoke alarm in the hall. Bizarrely, the only time the heat might just go before the smoke is if there is a closed door there!

colin todd · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2005, 10:08:42 PM »

Yes Brian thats all true but the wee Glaswegina who comes home on a saturday night, beats up the wife, puts chips on and falls asleep on the sofa is still alive well and living in glasgow. And he might just shut the door...............

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