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Offline Tom Sutton

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« on: September 18, 2008, 07:25:15 PM »
Take a look at this news report http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/09/18/chip-pan-blaze-engulfs-childwall-home-100252-21846561/ how do you get the message across to such people?
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 10:46:16 PM »
tell them that oven chips are more healthy

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 10:47:18 PM »
and Micro chips are safer and only take 3 minutes

Offline Galeon

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 11:17:16 PM »
How come chip shops dont burn down then?
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Offline nearlythere

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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2008, 07:55:19 AM »
And wood chips don't need cooking at all. Yum.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2008, 09:31:04 AM »
Bless you Kurnal , a sweeping statement made by me , should have been more careful !
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Offline Tom Sutton

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2008, 10:12:03 AM »
Merseyside has had many campaigns and publicity drives, with all the alternatives explained. An important part of the message was how to deal with a chip pan fires with the emphasis on "Never put water on a chip pan fire" but people don’t seem to take heed, but I bet this women will take notice in future.

My question is still how you get the message across.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2008, 10:22:07 AM »
!. Have a working smake alarm.
2. Don't deep fry.  It's unhealthy anyway.  And messy.
3. If you have to deep fry, have a fire blanket handy.
4. Never never never use water on an oil/fat fire.
5. Don't leave cooking unattended.
6. Have a good battery in your smake alarm, idiot!

Quote those rules in any order.  The punter won't take any notice anyway, as "it won't happen to me"...

I was interested in the comment that without the water, the fire would have been contained to the pan.  We've had them spread up through rangehoods quite often.  Was the officer just putting it that way for simplicity?  Or don't you have the rangehood problem?

Offline wozzer38

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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2008, 11:04:36 AM »
There was a TV advert showing what happens. Representing the brigade. I have it but never saw it shown on TV. It needs to be made a higher priority on TV like the Drink/drive ads, and more shocking too. And this applies to all common household fires. People just aren't informed enough about these things. I see they are showing the Julie Waters one just now but i would be suprised if many people took notice of it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2008, 04:39:38 PM »
Yeah but would a ban the pan message be be better?

Showing the problems:

forgetting to turn it off
being distracted by a phone call
being distracted by a door caller
falling asleep on the sofa
turning off the wrong ring
Overfilling it
Chips too wet

None of these would be a problem if we banned the pan and promoted thermostatically controlled deep fat fryers. They could be subsidised by the government, targetted at key risk groups and areas and distributed on an exchange scheme - swap a pan for a fryer.  After 12 months compare statistics to identify the number of fires that have been prevented and use the money saved to target other areas

Offline Tom Sutton

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2008, 07:49:51 PM »
Ban the Pan - we had one campaign during fire safety week when we arranged a discount from Comet for thermostatically controlled deep fat fryers, then went on the street looking for those who had chip pans and offered the vouchers. There were many takers, but no follow up so we never knew how effective it had been, however a national campaign would be far more effective.
All my responses only apply to England and Wales and they are an overview of the subject, hopefully it will point you in the right direction and always treat with caution.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2008, 02:45:47 PM »
never seen a chip pan since i was ten.

they made the best chips from what i can remember. cooked in lard.

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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2008, 12:43:36 PM »
"cooked in lard." - ah yes, I can hear the arteries crackling from here! I grew up eating chips cooked that way too...

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 09:45:29 AM »
Quote from: VolFirie
"cooked in lard." - ah yes, I can hear the arteries crackling from here! I grew up eating chips cooked that way too...
Who wants soft arteries anyway? Soft arteries would burst easily. Think about the central heating pipework in your house. Much better to have good hard ones like copper that can withstand greater pressures.
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