Hypothetical Question

[davidandrewsuk]

I really can't be bothered giving the post from moe.com the time of day.

I think it evident from everyone's response that a hidden agenda is at work here, designed to whip up hysteria.

Chill Winstan ^^

[Tom Sutton]

The problem with this scenario is that we have to state an outcome and in doing so it gives us hindsight. I would say however that the outcomes described are possible outcomes with respect to the small risk that such a premises would pose. Death would be a highly unlikely one, I would assume, and not too much is gained in citing it as a reason for the experiment as being invalid.

David you can reduce the risk to alarp but if a fire does starts then you are in the lap of the gods. Never would I ever assume death would be highly unlikely situation and I would always consider the worse case scenario.

Who before the event would have considered Bradford a such a high fire risk.

[Mike Buckley]

Or Summerland, Stardust, Station House, Woolworths, etc.

It seems to me there is a communication problem. A lot of business people look at it from a simple cause and effect basis. If a guard is left off a machine and there is an accident, it is a single event and it does not tend to snowball. We in the fire buisiness know this does not happen with fire. The whole thing gains a momentum of its own and the domino effect comes into play. One of the best explainations I have seen of this was a BBC program on Disasters that went through Piper Alpha and showed how one minor error, a missed Permit to Work led via various other matters to the loss of the platform.

[terry martin]

The problem with this scenario is that we have to state an outcome and in doing so it gives us hindsight. I would say however that the outcomes described are possible outcomes with repsect to the small risk that such a premises would pose. Death would be a highly unlikely one, I would assume, and not too much is gained in citing it as a reason for the experiment as being invalid.


I quite liked it to see the points that different people might bring up and how it explores different subtleties of perspective from similar background persons.

you use words as  'this experiment' and 'similar backgrounds' in my opinion there is an agenda here that we don't know about.

with regards to 'similar backrounds' i hope i have not read you correctly in that you are making the assumption that all of us using this forum have similar backgrounds.

we have a diverse membership here and we will always give impartial advice, and sometimes we may even disagree. but i think we all agree (sorry to speak for everyone) this is a leading post designed to confirm your already formed opinion.

however, i hope i am wrong and have miss read your post, if so i appologise

[davidandrewsuk]

I dont understand this talk of Agendas??? You think what exactly?
I've stalked the boards getting to know who all your real life personas are and have posed a hypothetical question to invite you to post under your pseudonym in the hope that you will set yourself up to headlines of "Risk assesor X quotes on forum board "Save the money and let it burn"! .....  this is all I can imagine you mean.

I can honestly say I posted it to see what people might say and arguements and counter-arguements etc. Twas meant only as "fun" lol.

By similar I only meant fire safety related generally. Im not supposing everyone here is but everyone is here for that reason.

I think we can close this one now.

Twill be the last post from me.

Thanks for all the responses. Was interesting.

[Davo]

david

There are people out there who want to knock the RRO and those who support it. Fact.

If you are not one of those please understand if our collective antennae were raised.

We all want people to be safe. Its not enough to offer a, b or c, there are choices in between.

davo

[Galeon]

I've stalked the boards getting to know who all your real life personas are and have posed a hypothetical question

Says it all really , Lads

[Davo]

The original post on some other website has had two replies. What do you expect with only 78 members and 164 posts for the whole forum?
Kinda tells you what the professionals out there think of the site!
Give it a miss David

davo