Owner sleeping above his own shop

[Big T]

Irrelevant of what could be done legally, for all intensive purposes the guy may have no clue he is in any danger.

[Dragonmaster]

Standing up in a Coroner's Court, how does the fire officer answer the question "Was there anything else you could have done to ensure the safety of this person?" Surely if the answer is "Yes", then you've got to do it?

[PhilB]

Irrelevant of what could be done legally, for all intensive purposes the guy may have no clue he is in any danger.

are all these intensive purposes similar to to all intents and purposes???

[Benzerari]

The owner is the occupier of the shop and the single flat above.  I'm syuggesting that if he has 1hr separation, he does not have to have AFD.

I didn't manage to read all replies, but a friend of mine who has a cafe shop, and above it two floors, he's been told one day that, a word of mouth would be enough to escape from fire if it happens in the shop...etc

I guess, the flat above goes under BS5839 part 6 systems, since it's solely for him self... etc

[kurnal]

So a question for your friend Benz-  Who would do the shouting if a fire broke out in his cafe shop at 3am?

[FSO]

I had an interesting discussion with a pub landlord the other day who has exactly this scenario. His only egress from his flat coming through the bar, 30 min seperation etc.

I am asking for a part 6 system within the bar for his protection (escape is possible via first floor windows). He his of the opinion that we can not ask for this as we cannot enforce within his dwelling. He was of course advised by his solicitor about this matter.
A quick little discussion with his solicitor and me made him think that perhaps he needs to change his legal advice.

This is proberly the same solicitor who phoned me and asked for a copy of the fire certificate for a block of offices the other week!

Nice to see our legal professionals keep up with the law.

[Benzerari]

So a question for your friend Benz-  Who would do the shouting if a fire broke out in his cafe shop at 3am?

He would loose every thing including himself

[Benzerari]

It's a good reason why dwellings and private properties, have to be considered as BMO (Buildings of Multiple Occupancies)!

Since, it's human safety that matter first