Change to Signage Standards?

[Thomas Brookes]

What about a strolling promptly, person of no particular gender sign,

[Graeme]

Maybe it should be a running person?

But I think the ease of understanding has already been studied in detail and that the BS version is understood by a wider audience.

why not have a man with a skirt in wheelchair and not be white.

to please all PC people...

[Graeme]

ISO 7010 is going to become a European Normative.

This means that the Euro Sign will be illegal.

I think this is as of January but wont be written into law until much later.

Still.... time to get an early start.

Excuse my ignorance, but is that the 'running man'?

no   Arnold Swchwarzenegger is taller.

[kurnal]

The most international of all environments- an aeroplane- still has text exit signs in red (Or they did last time I flew)   Universally understood as far as I am aware.

[Chris Houston]

The most international of all environments- an aeroplane- still has text exit signs in red (Or they did last time I flew)   Universally understood as far as I am aware.

English words are not universally understood outside the "Western" world.  Most planes are fairly standard and have staff who point out the exits, including in the local language where necessary.  I don't think you are comparing the same when you think of complex buildings occupied by people who are unfamiliar with thier environment.  The word "exit" may indeed be fine or even easier for us English speaking types, but not so easy for tourists or the population who don't read, or don't read English.

Picture yourself in a building on fire in China.  Would you want the exit route to be marked in written Mandarin script or with a picture.  I know what I would want.

[kurnal]

fánghuomén

[Tom Sutton]

Are you sure Kurnal I thought it was yìng jí chū kǒu or  应急出口

[AnthonyB]

Exit in Mandarin




To equalise the sexes a running nun fire exit sign!

[Psuedonym]

http://www.safetyphoto.co.uk/photo1/fire_enviro_risk/safety_signs/safety_signs.htm

I would print the pic but seem to be having some issues in that department, anyway take a look at this, it is 100% genuine even though it may be unbelievable 

[jokar]

And again, none meet any standard.  Unbelieveable that people do these sorts of thing.

[Psuedonym]

I Know Jokar, but what I found so unbelievable was not only the fact that these three signs all sat over a F/E and had done for a long time, the site concerned were on the face of things, genuinely extremely concerned with Health & Safety (this site control British oil/gas rigs - no names no pack drills.. ).
It was another case of ensuring the correct forms were completed and upper echelon satisfied that H&S was/is adhered to and the public were made aware of all their efforts, but the facilities management ensured repeated advice for signage improvements and extinguisher upgrades could'nt be met due to budget restrictions.
Very frustrating 
I know this is a common problem within the industry with many factors coming into play: poor past advice/service/price making the client wary of even more advice i.e. "once bitten" etc. However this particular case was one of those frustrating times as we had looked after this client for years and also due to the amount of kit on site, pressure testing for example, was increasing year on year and from my point of view my service wasn't complete despite providing advice (I was salaried not commissioned so that wasn't the issue, i'm one of those strange ones who likes to provide a decent service to the client) but it's something you learn to live with.

[AnthonyB]

The problem of extinguishers in place that aren't pressure tested or are unsafe can be solved if you use a suitably large garish warning sticker on the front as we do.

One site had a CO2 out of test that, although advised both verbally and on the defects sheet to the service report was not withdrawn. However the site managers boss when accompanying a risk assessor noticed the big yellow hazard sticker on the front of the extinguisher, made enquiries and the item was soon service exchanged. Doesn't look good if you're extinguishers say 'unsafe for use' on them in big letters!

Of course we reserve this for units that are dangerous or in breach of pressure systems legislation and don't do the London Securities favourite of putting yellow 'corrective action required' stickers on anything in site (I love the way they use easy peel, makes it easier for me to take them off and stick to my clipboard!)

[FireDave]

ISO 7010 is going to become a European Normative.

This means that the Euro Sign will be illegal.

I think this is as of January but wont be written into law until much later.

Still.... time to get an early start.

Excuse my ignorance, but is that the 'running man'?

no   Arnold Swchwarzenegger is taller.

So what will happen with regard to internally illuminated signage which has been the euro standard for several years, to the point where the only way to get the BS version as an internally illuminated sign is to pay an addtitional premium.
I have been trying to standardise the signage on the site for which I am responsible for several years, now it would seem I would have to go back to the Finance Dept. and tell them that the rules have changed yet again, and now we need the BS signage.

Give me strength   

[davidandrewsuk]

Why did you standardise it to euro standard in the first place.....?

I don't think Euo Standard ever existed anyway.

Although the concept of the Euro sign was introduced in the H&S(SSS)96 Regulations the pictogram itself was a "minimum requirement" and just a suggested pictogram with use of better fully allowed.

[FireDave]

Why did you standardise it to euro standard in the first place.....?

I don't think Euo Standard ever existed anyway.

Although the concept of the Euro sign was introduced in the H&S(SSS)96 Regulations the pictogram itself was a "minimum requirement" and just a suggested pictogram with use of better fully allowed.

It was all down to finance as all the internally illumnated signs provided during expansion works were of the euro style and the provision of euro for the remaining signage was deemed a cheaper option, by those that controlled the purse strings, than replacing items only just provided.

Not a good answer I know, but the best I could achieve at the time to try and keep some uniformity of signage throughout the site.