Fire Certificates

[jasper]

I have been doing a bit of research and cannot find any stipulation for Fire Certificates for nursing homes or small residential care homes. Am I correct in thinking that the '6 of more persons sleeping' rule is relevant?

[hollandg]

remember 'carrying out the trade of a hotel or boarding house keeper' and 'providing sleeping facilities for more than 6 persons etc being staff or guests'

Res care prem are regulated elsewhere, you wouldn't get someone knocking the door and asking for a bed for the night, therefore not designated as a hotel or boarding house and therefore not requirement for fire cert.

I hope this brief helps

[jasper]

thank you for your reply, but how do some of the nursing homes I have seen have fire certificates, even though they dont employ 20 on ground floor or 10 above or below?

[colin todd]

I do not see how such a situation can be possible Res care is not designated under the FP ACT.

[jasper]

exactly colin, that was my thought

[Bill.]

I would suggest to clarify the situation you ask the relevant persons where you have seen the certificates for a look at it. Examine it and see whom issued and exactly what it is. I very much doubt, if not totally doubt, that it was issued under the FPA Act. The old Social Services used to register Care premises, amongst others, and it may be cert of some sort under that.

It might be that a premises was used as a hotel etc and then changed hands to form a care establishment. If they did not notify the Fire Authority then unless the Brigade inspected, in Scotland Hotels are usually annually, it may be an old exoired cert.

Hey some people even make up their own in a similar format to convine/confuse etc but I very much doubt that.

To sum up I would recontact and ask for clarification.