weekly mcp test

[Davro]

So basically the customer test the mcp and then walks back to panel and reports any defects or if the system is big then a second person can silence soon after activation. Many thanks for replies.

[colin todd]

Yes or put system in one man test mode.

[kurnal]

End of story. Ker-chink.

Colins still dragging those chains round with him. Must have been pretty wicked. Still at least we can hear him coming.

[colin todd]

I always come silently.

[Graeme]

Yes or put system in one man test mode.

I can hear the Call outs now Colin..

The customer finds the panel hard enough to work just using silence and reset.

[colin todd]

All makes work for mr graeme senior. Would he let you buy me dinner on his expense account when i am in edinburgh next week.

[Allen Higginson]

Yes or put system in one man test mode.

The one man test mode will only check the sounders - what about the link through to the ARC which is on the auxillary output (or in the case of older panels using sounder modules out in the field) and doesn't operate on a walk test ?

[Graeme]

All makes work for mr graeme senior. Would he let you buy me dinner on his expense account when i am in edinburgh next week.

you never know..might be able to to squeeze a jar of muscles out of the account.

[Graeme]

Yes or put system in one man test mode.

The one man test mode will only check the sounders - what about the link through to the ARC which is on the auxillary output (or in the case of older panels using sounder modules out in the field) and doesn't operate on a walk test ?

or the classic call when the doors did not shut when the fire alarm was tested as they had just used the evac button.

[SeanW]

I agree, it involves cause & effect and why should this not be tested weekly? It is an integral part of the efficiency and operation of the fire system. Without the full test the customer is therefore relying on a report from a service engineer who invariably isolates all outputs during maintenance visits normally at the customers wishes. The customer is responsible for a weekly test or full evacuation test and to satisfy themselves the system works as designed and to liaise with the maintenance vendor. It is their own risk assessment and responsibility.

[Allen Higginson]

I agree, it involves cause & effect and why should this not be tested weekly? It is an integral part of the efficiency and operation of the fire system. Without the full test the customer is therefore relying on a report from a service engineer who invariably isolates all outputs during maintenance visits normally at the customers wishes. The customer is responsible for a weekly test or full evacuation test and to satisfy themselves the system works as designed and to liaise with the maintenance vendor. It is their own risk assessment and responsibility.

Just to circumnavigate back to what the weekly test relates to,it's primary aim is to keep staff familiar with the fire alarm sound and check the link to the ARC is functioning.
It isn't always possible (or feasible) to check if the C & E is operating correctly as there may be delays,critical shutdowns etc. that cannot be activated unless it is a genuine alarm.In this case there should be (at design/commissioning stage) an isolation group put into the cause and effect to faciliate a test function without shutdown of processes etc.

[colin todd]

Allow me to repeat myself. My mother always did with her wartime stories as she aged, so its good enough for me. THE PRIME PURPOSE OF THE WEEKLY TEST SPECIFIED IN BS 5839-1 IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SYSTEM IS NOT COMPLETELY DEAD. ANYTHING ELSE IS LARGELY A BONUS. MAKING STAFF FAMILIR WITH THE ALARM SOUND IS AS THE BUZZ SAYS AN IMPORTANT BONUS. IT IS NOT EXPECTED THAT THE SYSTEM BE RECOMMISSIONED EVERY WEEK ALTHOUGH IT SHOULD BE ENSURED THAT DOORS RELEASE.

[Graeme]

Calm down dear.....

[Galeon]

Colin seems to have had a makeover.

[Allen Higginson]

Colin seems to have had a makeover.

Christ,he hasn't half put the beef on since before Christmas!!!
Must be too many Ulster/Northern Ireland/North of Ireland/Occupied Six/Provincial fries!!!