Re: UK PROSECUTIONS discussion

[kurnal]

Or not proved at all in the case of plea bargaining

[Bruce89]

Indeed 

[colin todd]

Buckers, there are lots of ways of finding these.  Trials are pubic.  You could have heard all the cases to which I referred by sitting in a Court.  There are even published stats on acquittals.

Bruce Almighty, sadly a number of FRS in England have not got the right culture in all this sitting down having a cup of tea stuff, though some of course do. Interesting that prosecutions are rare in NI and Scotland, where the FRS both work really well with the business community.

[Bruce89]

Colski I agree with you, perhaps if some of the English FRS's spent more time on educating their I.O.'s in the art of persuasive discussion as well as listening to the needs of the business community there may be less need to go down the legal road. Besides, in times of austerity this must surely be better than entering into costly litigation both for the FRS and R.P.

[JT]

Appealed an enforcement notice today as it was served on an admin girl at head office.
As the correct RP (employer) "told them to". Got through the primary authority also...

[nearlythere]

Anyone ever heard of an employee being prosecuted for failing in their responsibilities? Fire or H&S legislation.

[colin todd]

Almost, yes there have been several in England under Article 33, for which you should read Regulation 32 in Norn Iron.  A number have resulted in acquittals, as in the most recent, when the jury returned a not guilty verdict, having given it a lot longer and more intelligent thought than the O J Simpson jury.

[Dinnertime Dave]

Anyone ever heard of an employee being prosecuted for failing in their responsibilities? Fire or H&S legislation.

Yes last week.

http://www.nottinghampost.com/carer-jailed-after-autistic-man-drowned-in-a-reservoir/story-30156208-detail/story.html

[colin todd]

Almost:  Thanks, Colin for taking the trouble to enlighten me regarding your experience of Article 23.
Colin: That's alright, Almost, no trouble for you. No need to thank me- oh wait a minute, you didn't.

[William 29]

We all dance around the gallows in relation to successful prosecutions, but nowhere is there a record of acquittals, where courts found defendants not guilty or the FRS decided to drop all charges because they were a crock of crap in the first place. 

Colin, you think its worth mentioning the case we were involved with?

What you think Guvnor, (sorry London accent is catching)

[colin todd]

I think that it is your prerogative if you wish to do so Wullie, subject to care over accuracy in reporting.