Author Topic: BS5839-1 sound levels  (Read 14109 times)

Offline Allen Higginson

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Re: BS5839-1 sound levels
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2009, 09:36:26 AM »
Now,I bought the first one - admittedly however,certain distractions did knock any further such actions on the head!

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Re: BS5839-1 sound levels
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2009, 05:17:12 PM »
Graeme, Not aimed at anyone. Just a shorthand way or reminding people that it is expected that people use commonsense in applying BSs. People just make up figures as a yardstick and then find that the world is measuring them to the 99th decimla point. It is all very frustrating.

Ok Colin thanks. I can understand your frustrations but it's only because we are wanting to get everything 100% as some training courses put the wind up you with all the weight on the commissioning engineers shoulders.

They take the opposite view to BS in that we do have to check everything  including the design and install. I go by BS now as i got into alot more hassle their way by never getting away from jobs with all the stuff i highligted.

The job this thread is based ,i have taken all dB(A) readings and submitted them back to the consultant for him to make the decisions and as you say common sense would dictate no need for sounders in some rooms measured.


Offline Wiz

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Re: BS5839-1 sound levels
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2009, 09:18:40 AM »
Graeme, I have now included a system of rating 'non-compliance' items to my commissionings. I highlight everything that doesn't comply precisely to the recommendations of BS but then highlight those 'which in my professional opinion are of no detriment to the proper operation of the system'. This might, for example, include a detector sited only 450mm rather than 500mm from a wall etc. etc.
It is the 'interested parties' responsibility, and not mine, to decide if strict compliance with the letter of BS recommendations is necessary, but I would hope my comments would give them the confidence not to insist on the designer/installer making loads of unneccesary minor adjustments.
However, the reason I highlight even the most minor of BS digressions is so no 'smart arse' later tries to insist I have missed something on my commissioning! No-one outwizzes the Wiz!
It is right that the training courses make it clear that everything should be checked carefully. If not, a major ommission might occur.
You should be able to prove that you checked everything by highlighting every problem, no matter how small. But you should also be able to point out which of those small problems are of no serious consequence.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2009, 09:29:34 AM by Wiz »

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Re: BS5839-1 sound levels
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2009, 09:39:02 AM »
Thanks Wiz

That's exactly what i have done on this site and many(variations) were brought to attention before installation started.


Graeme