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Offline jasper

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can they do this?
« on: February 04, 2009, 01:49:58 PM »
I have been doing a little looking around on the internet and found this page
http://www.communities.gov.uk/fire/firesafety/firesafetylaw/
however, part way down I see they have a link to the IFE (which is fair enough as they have a good vetted list of approved consultancy companies, but to the left of this is a link to the company Warrington Fire. Excuse me if I appear to be asking an odd question but is this not advertising a company direct from a government web site?
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Offline nearlythere

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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 01:57:17 PM »
Quote from: jasper on February 04, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
I have been doing a little looking around on the internet and found this page
http://www.communities.gov.uk/fire/firesafety/firesafetylaw/
however, part way down I see they have a link to the IFE (which is fair enough as they have a good vetted list of approved consultancy companies, but to the left of this is a link to the company Warrington Fire. Excuse me if I appear to be asking an odd question but is this not advertising a company direct from a government web site?
Have seen this also.
Question is should there be links to any company regardless if they are "approved" or not? There are also good, and in some cases better, "unappproved" consultants out there.
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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 02:27:28 PM »
would you say it requires ans official complaint due to unfair advertising?
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 04:56:56 PM »
Warrington fire run a third party certification scheme for risk assessors which it has developed with the RICS, and is similar to the IFE list, although the link goes directly to the fire safety consultancy page.

http://www.warringtonfire.net/default.asp?DepartmentID=6&SectionID=113

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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 05:07:17 PM »
Quote from: jasper on February 04, 2009, 02:27:28 PM
would you say it requires ans official complaint due to unfair advertising?
Who does one complain to?
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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 09:06:47 PM »
Quote from: AM on February 04, 2009, 04:56:56 PM
Warrington fire run a third party certification scheme for risk assessors which it has developed with the RICS, and is similar to the IFE list, although the link goes directly to the fire safety consultancy page.

http://www.warringtonfire.net/default.asp?DepartmentID=6&SectionID=113



a simple error?

Quote from: nearlythere on February 04, 2009, 05:07:17 PM

Quote from: jasper on February 04, 2009, 02:27:28 PM
would you say it requires ans official complaint due to unfair advertising?
Who does one complain to?


I will try to find out
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Offline CivvyFSO

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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2009, 04:28:57 PM »
Office of Fair Trading?
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 08:33:13 AM »
Quote from: nearlythere on February 04, 2009, 05:07:17 PM
Quote from: jasper on February 04, 2009, 02:27:28 PM
would you say it requires ans official complaint due to unfair advertising?
Who does one complain to?

Gogs Brown
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Offline devon4ever

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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2009, 02:41:41 PM »
Send complaints direct to the Home Secretary, (Ms J Smith), by post to her sisters house
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Offline davidandrewsuk

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Re: can they do this?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2009, 03:11:32 PM »
My first instincts upon seeing the add by the way were that it might be some kind of dynamic ad.

By that I mean a program that is part of the website has scanned the web for some predetermined search terms (i.e those that may be on the page itself in the metakey field) and has returned some links based on those keywords for the benefit of the page reader.

If it is such a dynamic contraption then the site webmaster would have no control over what is displayed their.

Just my initial reaction. Otherwise tis gross biasednessness !
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Offline CivvyFSO

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2009, 04:24:38 PM »
This is direct from their text:

Details of companies which are members of a registered scheme are available, for example on the Institution of Fire Engineers website: www.ife.org.uk/frr and at Bodycote Warringtonfire at www.warringtonfire.net.

And also if you view the source HTML behind the page, then it is not dynamic, it is a standard linked embedded into the page.
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Offline nearlythere

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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2009, 05:11:17 PM »
Quote from: devon4ever on February 09, 2009, 02:41:41 PM
Send complaints direct to the Home Secretary, (Ms J Smith), by post to her sisters house
Tried that but seems her sister threw her out for not paying her way.
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Offline jasper

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 10:38:45 AM »
emailed them and got this reply: -

Thank you for your email below.  We certainly did not mean for this to look like promotion for a particular company over another.  The aim of the link was to provide information to Responsible Persons, highlighting  the fact that Bodycote Warringtonfire, in partnership with RICS, run an accredited fire risk assessor scheme, similar to that provided by the IFE. We accept that the IFE is a non-commercial organisation and including the Bodycote Warringtonfire link may have been inappropriate given that it didn't go straight to the list of accredited fire safety assessors. I am grateful for you for drawing this to my attention and I have asked for the link to be removed. 
 
Kind regards,
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Offline Morri

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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 12:09:54 PM »
Blimey!  :o  Power to the people!
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2009, 03:09:44 AM »
Surely it would be ok though if it had gone striaght to the list?
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