ADC's...

[Jack the Lad]

Hello All,

are any of you out there planning/taking part in any ADC's in the near future.

I will be attending one in June and have very little info regarding the format and what is included.

 Any help/comments gratefully appreciated.


Jack.

[burgermuncher999]

Contact the dept who are running the ADC.

[Jack the Lad]

Okey Dokey,

 looking at your previous posts that would be you then.

The ADC is for Crew Manger position with Cheshire.

I am currently Acting up and am compiling Rolemap evidence for both Ff and Crew Manager.

What area's will be tested and how will it be scored/graded.


Jack.

[burgermuncher999]

I also am hoping to go through an ADC process in Cheshire. The word is that the focus for the Cheshire ADC will be personal qualities and attributes (at least at the SM & GM level) so be prepared to answer questions based upon what you as an individual can bring to the role in terms of personality, character, bearing, attitude etc. The development portfolio which incidentally i think i may have gave you will assist at the application phase but once through the initial sift it will have virtually no significance. Thats as much as i have at the present. Contact EDU or HR for further details.
Regards,
Mike (SDC, 8494)

[Jack the Lad]

Hi Mike,

by the "development portfolio" do you mean the PDR record that has arrived on stations in a big blue folder containing copy of the IRMP etc??

If not - and it is something extra - any chance you can PM it over to me?


Thanks a lot.


Jack.

[burgermuncher999]

All that the development portfolio is is the Crew Manager units and elements together with evidence sheets and assessor testimony sheets. These are used by the individual to gather evidence of workplace performance. The portfolio can then be used at your appraisal to support you or your line managers assessment of your readiness for advancement through an ADC. I can easily send you the portfolio but it would help greatly if you could call me on my ext at HQ (8494) or e-mail me on my internal address where we could discuss your development in further detail. I also have updated info on the ADC process that might be useful.
Mike Anderson. SDC HQ

[Jack the Lad]

Mike,

I have put together a separate folder with Rolemaps and testimony sheets, but if this is the agreed way of doing things then I can change it. The last time I spoke to Jerry Whiteman there wasn't an "official " line on evidence collection.

Next time i'm on duty I'll drop you a line on the internal e-mail.

thanks a lot for your Help.


Neil McElroy
@03.

[burgermuncher999]

You're right there is no 'standard' method of gathering evidence. The important thing is that however it is gathered and collated it should align to the performance criteria in the relevant role map.
The absence of a 'standard' allows for each portfolio to be a unique representation of the individual it appertains to. This may pose a problem for some who haven't done this before but it does allow for the opportunity to shine by the nature of the evidence you submit and the manner in which it is presented.
For those who haven't done it before Jerry and i are always happy to help.

[dave bev]

the 'adc' process at supervisory level has just been sent out for consultation - and until the outstanding issues of r2r have been resolved no-one should be taking part in an unagreed 'process' - ok, having said that i also recognise the reality of what is happening out there in the uk f&r. the document talks about making sure that all those involved in the process should be aware of the requirements of that process - posting here is NOT the answer - the actual brigades involved should be telling you what is required - in the olden days you were told at least nine months in advance of what the sylabus for exams were, so why havent the brigade planned correctly and sorted it out? or have 'they' been too busy with their own pet projects?? instead of what they are supposed to be doing? not quite as sexy or high profile is it, telling people whats expected of them if they wish to play a managerial role in the brigade, much more profiling is available by 'fixing things wot aint broke' in cheshire it seems?? if they cant get the first level of management correct what of the future?

[guest 245]

Strathclyde are running ADC's at present and have sent out details to all stations and posted on their local intranet, examples of how the application should be filled in. Contact numbers are also available for anyone who needs clarification on any points.
All stages of the assessment are explained in detail but the main problem is that one of the assessments is for Station Managers and morale amongst Sub/Station Officers is the lowest I have ever witnessed in my 20 years of service.

[dave bev]

perhaps thats why im at the officers meeting on wed night in glasgow then!!

dave bev

all FBU officers are welcome of course!

and if youre not an 'officer' (under fbu rule book) why dont you try and see if you can attend aswell.


ps - do i need my flak jacket as it seems that 'others' who were invited (asked) wont be there??

[guest245]

Dave

I wasn't aware that it was an Officers section meeting- in fact, I think it will be attended by  much more Stn and Sub/o's who are not very happy at the loss of money when rank to role kicks in.

I wonder if some of them who won't be there are the same ones who told members phoning the Glasgow union office for clarification- " it's your own fault- you signed up to this" and then denied the union recommended signing up to it!

To answer your question, you won't need a flak jacket if this person described above is there- he will be the target of all the flak!

[dave bev]

ok, thanks for the clarification.  im happy for a general meeting of all fbu members and will hopefully pass information both to and from the meeting - it would help me if some of the info anyone wants/needs clarifying can be in writing or even notified to me prior to the meeting? not to evade the issues but to get my head round some of the queries so i can clarify things - if not at the meeting but poss soon after - i would like to be able to give answers at the meeting rather than everyone go away none the wiser! i am meeting with the brigade sec before the meeting so may get the questions/queeries then.

if anyone wants to ask specifics beforehand email me -

oncs@fbu.org.uk - and i'll try to get some answers

dave bev

[Tom]

Hello All,
 Can anyone help with an answer to this please? I passed the first ADC (CM/WM) my brigade ran and did so with a very good pass mark. I had been acting up for some time before. I was congratulated by the area commander and asked to wait about four months before assuming the role properly. The area was being re-organised and he wanted all in place and ready to roll. I agreed and after the four month period, he said that I would now be temporary for six months as a management decision as he put it. When the end date was approching I spoke to my Station Commander / Officer. He said fine and wrote a letter supporting gaining the substantive posistion. However I heard nothing from HR to confirm.  Three months later, querying it with them, was told that I was still marked as temporary. My Station Manger / Officer asked on my behalf and was told that the Area Commander wanted me to remain temporary for yet another six months. Now bearing in mind the ADC pass only lasts for twenty four months. It would be at least 19 / 20 months and I am near the twenty four month end.

 Can the Area Commander do this considering I passed the ADC and have my Staion Commander's support? It seems very unfair and have to consider what to do about it. Maybe get the union involved or lodge a grevience! Anyone any ideas or suggestions please?