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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #90 on: August 15, 2009, 01:20:05 AM »
Civvy

I disagree. KK is in a sense stuck between a rock and a hard place, but i think u under estimate people.

When I was an IO i had many people contact me, mainly joe public with fire safety issues about the places where they lived. Some of those concerns were legitimate, the vast majority werent and a bit of reasurrance based on fire safety facts put their minds at ease.

If you explain thing logically to people they generally make their own minds up. It isn;t about me putting on an act tryong to convince them, I merely put things in laypersons terms for them to make their mind up. KK could do the same but wont because the political pressure wont let him and that im afraid is part of the game our superiors play daily, puppets and p[uppet masters keep the masses happy.

The truth is that there isnt a huge problem with high rise blocks at all and Sir Ken (God bless him) would be singing a different tune if he werent CFRA and HMFSI. DOnt get me wrong KK has done what he had to, but lets face facts what happened was pretty much a one off

Dont forget members of the public may view this forum and it is vital we keep things in perspective and away from Planet Government interference.



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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #92 on: November 02, 2009, 09:30:38 AM »
Seen the October private eye? Probably the best article I've seen so far.

Interesting point is that the LA has hired the country's leading corporate manslaughter lawyers......

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2009, 11:12:56 AM »
Anybody want to update us on what their FRS is doing about high rise?


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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #95 on: November 23, 2009, 12:08:22 PM »
Basically, inspecting all of them.

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #97 on: January 06, 2010, 02:46:52 PM »
There is to be a program on Radio 4 1230 on Thursday this week on this topic- an investigation by John Waite

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #98 on: January 10, 2010, 02:39:24 PM »
Not a bad bit of investigative journalism, but then BBC are always good at NCA. I got bored though and switched over to radio one for a bit of the old rockaria. I dont listen to radio 4 much as its an old mans station, so I must have missed the prog when Sir Big K said it was unacceptable for an RP not to have an up to date FRA when the Fire Service College had their million pound fire. He did say that didn't he......................???
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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #99 on: January 10, 2010, 04:44:44 PM »
Good job there aren't that many fire stations and fire authority premises going up in smoke then or peopel may wonder where their FRA's are as well.

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #100 on: January 11, 2010, 12:52:09 AM »
Have fire risk assessments become some magical paper-based fire extinguisher?

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #101 on: January 11, 2010, 05:28:47 AM »
Could be , some I have seen you might as well use them as a wedge on a fire door
Its time to make a counter attack !

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #102 on: January 11, 2010, 07:11:15 AM »
Funny that because i have thought about putting a tamper seal on some of mine.

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #103 on: January 12, 2010, 04:28:46 PM »
"Southwark Council has said that prior to the Lakanal House fire last July, it had mistakenly relied on the training of its housing officers by London Fire Brigade to meet fire safety requirements for some of its tower blocks."  :o

http://www.fseonline.co.uk/articles.asp?article_id=9681&viewcomment=1

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Re: Fatal flats blaze inquiry starts
« Reply #104 on: January 12, 2010, 08:24:34 PM »
I do not think that training people in fire awareness will get them out of that hole.