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Offline Bruce89

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Holiday Cottage
« on: October 12, 2009, 07:23:07 PM »
A holiday cottage consisting of 2 storey timber construction, open plan lounge, diner and kitchen on ground floor with open plan staircase to 3 bedrooms on first floor. Accomodates maximum of 8 but only let out as a single booking i.e. group of friends, family etc. but advertised as unsuitable for disabled. Max travel distance approx 12-15m, bedrooms all have windows suitable for escape. Impossible to change open plan layout.
Views on an acceptable standard would be appreciated.

Offline nearlythere

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 07:33:17 PM »
A holiday cottage consisting of 2 storey timber construction, open plan lounge, diner and kitchen on ground floor with open plan staircase to 3 bedrooms on first floor. Accomodates maximum of 8 but only let out as a single booking i.e. group of friends, family etc. but advertised as unsuitable for disabled. Max travel distance approx 12-15m, bedrooms all have windows suitable for escape. Impossible to change open plan layout.
Views on an acceptable standard would be appreciated.
I would be inclined to treat it as a single family dwelling as that is how it is being occupied with interlinked grade D detection in escape routes.  Maybe safety lighting in escape routes as they may not be familiar with surroundings in short period of time.
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

Offline jokar

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009, 07:58:03 PM »
Have a read of the small B&B guide available on the CLG website.  It will assist you with this as that is why it was produced.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 11:41:21 AM »
As Nearlythere states you can treat the cottage like any other single family unit dwelling - the holidaymakers using the cottage will probably know each other and thus will be more inclined to look after each others interests and well being

BS 5839 Part 6 Grade D system sounds fine.

Risk assess the need for escape lighting. Plug in night lights which double up as torches are a good idea in this environment.

Well fitting doors of traditional construction should be ok

The layout of the property isn't ideal, and wherever possible I try to avoid using escape windows - they're fine for able bodied people but what about an 80 year old grandmother with dodgy hips? In this scenario however it is acceptable.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 12:09:42 PM »
wherever possible I try to avoid using escape windows - they're fine for able bodied people but what about an 80 year old grandmother with dodgy hips?

Greetings Grandma Retty

All this time on the forum and I never knew you had a hip problem.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 12:29:31 PM »
 ::) Matron, Civvy is out of bed again!  ::)

PS:- Civvy your comments constitute banter - you may recieve a fixed penalty fine by Chief Inspector Houston  and / or a posterial marrigold glove inspection by Matron
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Offline xan

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 01:09:12 PM »
::) Matron, Civvy is out of bed again!  ::)

PS:- Civvy your comments constitute banter - you may recieve a fixed penalty fine by Chief Inspector Houston  and / or a posterial marrigold glove inspection by Matron
what do I have to say to get one of those please!

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 01:28:42 PM »
Civvy

Wasn't aware Retty had ever been hip ;D ;D


However, if he was an 80 year old grandmother with dodgy hips does this explain why there is no Mrs Retty ??? ??? except INNIL?


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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 04:27:40 PM »
......you may recieve a fixed penalty fine by Chief Inspector Houston......

Has anyone else noticed that there has been a distinct lack of contretemps between members since C.I. Houston has been on foreign duties?  I know he was meant to be policing the fights, but I'm beginning to wonder if he started most of them!

Offline Wiz

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 04:30:17 PM »
::) Matron, Civvy is out of bed again!  ::)

PS:- Civvy your comments constitute banter - you may recieve a fixed penalty fine by Chief Inspector Houston  and / or a posterial marrigold glove inspection by Matron
what do I have to say to get one of those please!

Be in the Banter bar at 21.00 on Tuesdays. Matron inspects us all regularly to find out where we have been hiding the bromide pills she gives us each lunchtime.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 08:51:01 PM »
Surely not Dr Wiz :o

Doesn't your sphincter fall asleep with disastrous consequences ??? ??? ???


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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2009, 12:39:49 PM »
In such cases I also understand the housing act requirements of annually checking gas appliances, PAT testing and the FFR 1988 (as amended) all apply.

Fire Action information should also be provided ' particularly as foreigners may need to know 999 is our emergency number', and the property's full address will be helpful.

The provision of relatively simple fire safety advice such as 'switch off non essential electrical items at night, leave keys in final exit doors so they can be immediately located' all helps and serves as putting some of the fire safety measures back onto the guests.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009, 12:48:53 PM »
In such cases I also understand the housing act requirements of annually checking gas appliances, PAT testing and the FFR 1988 (as amended) all apply.

Fire Action information should also be provided ' particularly as foreigners may need to know 999 is our emergency number', and the property's full address will be helpful.

The provision of relatively simple fire safety advice such as 'switch off non essential electrical items at night, leave keys in final exit doors so they can be immediately located' all helps and serves as putting some of the fire safety measures back onto the guests.

All good common sense advice HT but would you accept a key operated lock rather than asking for an EOD?
We're not Brazil we're Northern Ireland.

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Re: Holiday Cottage
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009, 10:15:54 PM »
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In the case of holiday let cottages I'd say a manual EOD was preferable but would advise at a time of refurbishment rather than mandatory.  I would argue that clear instructions about keys left in locks whilst residing in a low risk property would be suitable and sufficient as long as the locks were in good condition.  I have come across many in such properties that look as though they are about to fall off!!
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