Implementing a FRA

[Tom W]

I would very much welcome a national register (gas safe) however as the FSO is geared up for a DIY approach to Fire safety i unfortunately doubt they will do it.

[nearlythere]

I would very much welcome a national register (gas safe) however as the FSO is geared up for a DIY approach to Fire safety i unfortunately doubt they will do it.

So as to give the impressison it would not overburden bisinesses, it was packaged and sold as something that was capable of the average employer/manager.
Now that it is in place and over the years allowed to grow horns and teeth it has become a rampaging monster.

[Tom W]

I would very much welcome a national register (gas safe) however as the FSO is geared up for a DIY approach to Fire safety i unfortunately doubt they will do it.

So as to give the impressison it would not overburden bisinesses, it was packaged and sold as something that was capable of the average employer/manager.
Now that it is in place and over the years allowed to grow horns and teeth it has become a rampaging monster.

Are you talking about Katie Price or Fire Safety?! 

[nearlythere]

I would very much welcome a national register (gas safe) however as the FSO is geared up for a DIY approach to Fire safety i unfortunately doubt they will do it.

So as to give the impressison it would not overburden bisinesses, it was packaged and sold as something that was capable of the average employer/manager.
Now that it is in place and over the years allowed to grow horns and teeth it has become a rampaging monster.

Are you talking about Katie Price or Fire Safety?! 

Price, of course. Who cares about FS.

[Midland Retty]

much prefer Fire Safety - Katie Price (eurgh)

Anyway thats enough of that. NT why would you object to a National Register old chum?

[nearlythere]

much prefer Fire Safety - Katie Price (eurgh)

Anyway thats enough of that. NT why would you object to a National Register old chum?

What's wrong with Katie? Every time I see her I think I married a man. (You have 30 mins to read this before it self destructs or my wife sees it and I am destructed).

Never expressed much of an opinion on NR subject, don't think? Was complaining more about how some are pushing the FRA business to the extreme.
But hey, Que sera sera.

[Midland Retty]

Right Ive made a copy of your post NT and I'll be using it to bribe you in future. 

No I just thought you seemed a little hesistant towards a National Register. Could have advantages and give assessors a level playing field, and meaningful accreditation!

[Tom W]

If they were to create one register they would embarrass many an Institution and association who are already running them.

If they plumped for an existing register they would put the other ones noses out of joint.

I am just forseeing problems. I am 100% behind having a national accreditation scheme.

[nearlythere]

No real concerns about a register of FRAers. I am more inclined towards reputation and word of mouth although that doesn't necessarily mean competance. But I'm possibly looking at this cynically when I know some who would pass any competancy to practice test but you darn't let them on to the street. Having a driving licence does not make one a competant driver.
Only been asked for a CV once, by an insurance company, when I was providing staff training which was a bit above the normal run of the mill stuff.

[kurnal]

So long as the Government dont get involved with running it.

Or maybe if they do it could be ok provided that they specify a nice new computer system to run it on. That will ensure its not in place till 2525 and will cost more that the GDP of most of the world economies.  Bit like the regional controls, National Care Standards Commission (remember them?) NHS etc etc 

[nearlythere]

So long as the Government dont get involved with running it.

Or maybe if they do it could be ok provided that they specify a nice new computer system to run it on. That will ensure its not in place till 2525 and will cost more that the GDP of most of the world economies.  Bit like the regional controls, National Care Standards Commission (remember them?) NHS etc etc 

What about ID cards as well?

[Tom Sutton]

Can all you fire alarm and extinguisher experts or anybody who has any point of view, please comment on BAFE schemes. They claim "Established in 1984, BAFE is a non-profit making organization dedicated to improving standards in fire protection" how good are their SP schemes, do they live up to the hype.

[kurnal]

BAFE have ten schemes covering manufacture, installation and service, for example  SP101 for the maintenance of fire fighting equipment, ST104 for the certification of extinguisher maintenance technicians,  SP203 for fire alarm systems, voice alarm systems  and suppression systems.

The BSI have confidence in SP203 as partners, through which they operate their kitemark scheme, in conjunction with SP203 and through which UKAS accreditation is achieved.

http://www.bsigroup.com/upload/Product%20Services/Fire/New%202009%20SP203%20Sales%20Pack.pdf

More information on BAFE here.

http://www.bafe.org.uk/fire_protection/bafe_adopted_schemes_fpc.html

[Tom Sutton]

Thanks Kurnal I do have most of the details and it seems a good system on paper. But in practise is it that good, quite often things don’t live up to the hype.

[kurnal]

TW I think that you may have more responses from the technical thread.