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Offline wee brian

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Re: Self closers on bedroom fire doors
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2009, 07:28:20 PM »
Cheers Colin

My grey cells weren't completely letting me down then. That slipped in quietly, or was I just not paying attention?

My recollection was that door closers were considered to be more trouble than they were worth for patient rooms. There must have been a change of heart.




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Re: Self closers on bedroom fire doors
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2009, 07:39:03 PM »
I have no idea why the qualification was introduced.  It doesn't really make much sense when you consider that the justification for excluding door closers from patient bedrooms as per HTM 81 was to assist patient evacuation! 

I'm not aware that evacuating patients from bedrooms other than those in mental health accommodation has become any easier than was the case in 1996 when HTM 81 was published.  ???

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Re: Self closers on bedroom fire doors
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2009, 11:02:32 AM »
I've recently been involved in a training session full evacuation of a 19 bed ward with individual bays and can tell you it would have been a hindrence with closers on the doors. I think the theory is (was) that the wards are manned (womaned) 24/7 so any fire in a bay would be detected early and the staff are trained to close doors once evacuated...and thats what happened in this case

but for doctors quarters away from the wards that is a different thing altogether
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Re: Self closers on bedroom fire doors
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2009, 04:12:22 PM »
Agreed, I'd buy you a pint but........